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Monuments to prevent grave robbing?
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 11:25 pm
by Stubble
Can someone read me in on this? I'm having trouble understanding.
Apparently the monuments at these 'mass grave site' are to prevent grave robbing, as if a sledge hammer is heavy or concrete saws don't exist.
There is another part of this that confuses me, where is this underground 'ivory trade' for jewish cremains? Does someone or some group of people buy jewish cremains from these sites? We are told these bodies were stripped naked and burned, so, what kind of retard is going to go dig them up thinking they will find, anything other than ashes.
I'm assuming the orthodox narrative of course.
Why in the hell would it be necessary to pour concrete over the graves and how exactly would doing so actually stop grave robbing assuming something with actual trade value was buried there?
Re: Monuments to prevent grave robbing?
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 11:38 pm
by joshk246
Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 11:25 pm
Can someone read me in on this? I'm having trouble understanding.
Apparently the monuments at these 'mass grave site' are to prevent grave robbing, as if a sledge hammer is heavy or concrete saws don't exist.
There is another part of this that confuses me, where is this underground 'ivory trade' for jewish cremains? Does someone or some group of people buy jewish cremains from these sites? We are told these bodies were stripped naked and burned, so, what kind of retard is going to go dig them up thinking they will find, anything other than ashes.
I'm assuming the orthodox narrative of course.
Why in the hell would it be necessary to pour concrete over the graves and how exactly would doing so actually stop grave robbing assuming something with actual trade value was buried there?
The grave robbing more than likely only occurred at the marked grave-site in the forest south of TI.
On August 9 and 10, 1946, Łukaszkiewicz, along with the surveyor Trautsolt and the court physician Wakulicz, searched for mass graves in the area of the camp Treblinka I. In the forest by the village of Maliszewa, about 500 m south of the camp, a total of 41 mass graves were found, of which 40 had been dese- crated; many bodies were strewn around them. One grave was only partially violated, and from it 10 corpses were able to be recovered. The court physician examined 112 skulls and determined that in only two cases had a shot in the head been the cause of death. The entire surface area of the graves amounted to 1,607 m2. Concerning the number of the bodies discovered, Łukaszkiewicz wrote:
“Due to the destruction of the graves, it is not possible to count the bodies which have been there. The medical expert Mieczysław Piotrowski affirms, however, that one grave of 2 × 1 × 1 m (without taking into consideration the upper level of earth which covers the bodies) contains at least 6 nude bodies. Considering the size of all 41 graves, and under the assumption that the levels of corpses reach only up to 1.5 m in depth (the depth of the graves is up to 3 m), one can calculate that at least 6,500 people were buried there.”
Re: Monuments to prevent grave robbing?
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 11:46 pm
by Stubble
That's as may be, but, when did the concrete go in, you see, there is a bit of a problem here with the grave robbing thesis.
There's nothing of monetary value there, and by the time the monuments went in, everyone should have known that. What, people were still 'grave robbing' there when the monuments went in? I find the claim dubious.
Re: Monuments to prevent grave robbing?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:47 am
by borjastick
Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 11:46 pm
That's as may be, but, when did the concrete go in, you see, there is a bit of a problem here with the grave robbing thesis.
There's nothing of monetary value there, and by the time the monuments went in, everyone should have known that. What, people were still 'grave robbing' there when the monuments went in? I find the claim dubious.
If the concrete blocks the intention of anyone to excavate then the job has been done. After this point you can claim anything and physically nothing can be done to exercise discussion on the matter. The 'grave robbing' idea was just the first step of an elaborate and to be fair, quite good, cover story. They then used the old chestnuts 'you can't dig there mate because jews cannot be moved after burial', to the other elephant in the room that all 700,000 or more corpses were dug up and cremated before being re-interred. This claim is of course contra to the time available and the laws and physics of cremation. Plus of course the quantity of dried firewood needed would have been beyond enormous and was not available to them let alone recorded in any way shape or form as having been supplied to the camp.
Re: Monuments to prevent grave robbing?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:56 am
by Nessie
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts ... -gold-rush
It was known that prisoners hid valuables when they were searched, which would then end up being buried along with them.
"The peasants in the photograph are standing atop the ashes of 800,000 Jews gassed and cremated in the Treblinka extermination camp between July 1942 and October 1943. The peasants have been digging through remains of Holocaust victims, hoping to find gold and precious stones that their Nazi executioners may have overlooked."
"Dominik Kucharek, a gleaner from Treblinka who had been served with an indictment for violating foreign-exchange laws—he tried to sell in Warsaw a diamond he found at Treblinka and purchase gold coins on a black market—explained in his deposition that “everybody” from his village went to dig there. “I didn’t know that looking for gold and valuables at the site of the former camp at Treblinka was forbidden, because Soviet soldiers also went there with us to search. And they detonated explosives in places where they expected to find something.” There could be several hundred diggers working the camp at any one time. Given the size of the site, approximating that of a sports stadium, it must have looked like a busy anthill. And these digs went on for decades."
"The killing fields of Sobibór, Bełżec, and Treblinka were neglected by the Polish authorities for decades. No attempts were made to commemorate the dead or even protect mass graves from continuous desecration. “First clean-up and inventory activities at the site of the former camp began in the Spring of 1958,” wrote a contemporary historian of Treblinka, Martyna Rusiniak. “During the initial cleaning it wasn’t uncommon for the workers and the police to join occasionally with the diggers.”"
Re: Monuments to prevent grave robbing?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 12:29 pm
by Nessie
Grave robbers at TII;
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2015/12/ ... in-poland/
See the row of skulls they unearthed.
Re: Monuments to prevent grave robbing?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:28 pm
by HansHill
borjastick wrote: ↑Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:47 am
They then used the old chestnuts 'you can't dig there mate because jews cannot be moved after burial',
Absolutely, which is equally f***ing stupid.
Analogy - some Jew gets [redacted] in Central Park NY and buried inconspicuously in a very obvious and shoddy shallow grave. You're telling me the NYPD and relevant authorities will
leave him there just because it's a Jew?
Whole thing is retarded pardon my yiddish.
Re: Monuments to prevent grave robbing?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:39 pm
by Stubble
If it is a child in the basement of a synagogue, then NYPD is obligated to cart the remains away and not ask questions...
https://www.nytimes.com/1989/04/14/nyre ... ellar.html
I suppose that might have just been a little goy girl, but, that leads to a whole 'nother set of uncomfortable dialogue.