Jewish Holocaust Deniers

[ConfusedJew]

Are there any Jewish Holocaust deniers? I'm not talking about skeptics or minimizers who don't think the death count was as high as has been reported, but are there any ethnic or racial Jews that think the Holocaust simply didn't happen?

If the Holocaust was really a hoax, wouldn't you expect to find plenty of Jews and concentration camp survivors who recognize that it is a huge exaggeration or total fabrication?

[Archie]

Here you go:
https://archive.codohforum.com/20230609 ... ce60a.html

A few of the most notable ones would be J.G. Burg and David Cole.

[Cowboy]

I would consider Ron Unz to be a Holocaust 'Denier'. Unz is a very good writer and his website is full of articles covering every relevant topic imaginable. I don't consider him to be a "Holocaust researcher" if you will but he has done his due diligence on the topic. Here's an article he did on the Holocaust debate a couple years back where he writes about it:

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravd ... st-denial/

Any conclusions I have drawn are obviously preliminary ones, and the weight others should attach to these must absolutely reflect my strictly amateur status. However, as an outsider exploring this contentious topic I think it far more likely than not that the standard Holocaust narrative is at least substantially false, and quite possibly, almost entirely so.

[Archie]

I would consider Ron Unz to be a Holocaust 'Denier'. Unz is a very good writer and his website is full of articles covering every relevant topic imaginable. I don't consider him to be a "Holocaust researcher" if you will but he has done his due diligence on the topic. Here's an article he did on the Holocaust debate a couple years back where he writes about it:

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravd ... st-denial/

Any conclusions I have drawn are obviously preliminary ones, and the weight others should attach to these must absolutely reflect my strictly amateur status. However, as an outsider exploring this contentious topic I think it far more likely than not that the standard Holocaust narrative is at least substantially false, and quite possibly, almost entirely so.

Good addition. He came out in 2018, and I think his endorsement has been influential. In that initial article he struck a cautious, moderate tone, but more recently he's been even more open in calling it an outright hoax. See the title of this 2024 article for instance.

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravd ... aust-hoax/

[Wetzelrad]

I can think of a number of minor figures online today who fit both criteria, but I won't bring smoke to them by naming them here.

Ron Unz is the go-to Jew for a thoughtful and articulate discussion on the Holocaust.

[ConfusedJew]

Cole worked with Pressac who convinced him that the Holocaust was real but he remained critical of how the Holocaust was used culturally.

I didn't know Unz was Jewish by blood. Jews have all different kinds of ideas so I'm not surprised to see that there are a few but I do think that a lot more Jews would speak out about this. There are plenty of Jews that hate Israel, some for true reasons although many reasons are untrue.

[Archie]

Cole worked with Pressac who convinced him that the Holocaust was real but he remained critical of how the Holocaust was used culturally.

I didn't know Unz was Jewish by blood. Jews have all different kinds of ideas so I'm not surprised to see that there are a few but I do think that a lot more Jews would speak out about this. There are plenty of Jews that hate Israel, some for true reasons although many reasons are untrue.

The bolded part is not correct.

In the 1990s, Cole did not believe in the Holocaust and publicly promoted Holocaust revisionism. He was not merely "critical of how the Holocaust was used culturally." You can go back and look at what he was saying in the 90s. He thought the Holocaust was false.

For example,
https://altcensored.com/watch?v=qUB0gwp9bQU
https://codoh.com/library/document/fort ... questions/

Here is what Cole actually said in 1995 about Pressac and Strufhof.

I always had questions about the Struthof “gas chamber,” but after seeing it in person and meeting with Jean-Claude Pressac (who does a very good job in his book The Struthof Album published by the Klarsfeld Foundation) and seeing many of the original documents, I can now speak with more certainty; this gas chamber may very well have been used homicidally. It might turn out that Struthof is the only Nazi camp to ever have had a homicidal gas chamber… but in any event, the matter is far from closed, as Faurisson would have us believe. The Struthof episode also stresses the need to continually question and revise (if necessary) the work of other revisionists, no matter how well-respected they might be.

https://codoh.com/library/document/faur ... s-chamber/

He said it might be a legit gas chamber and that it might be the only one, implying he thought all the others were fake. To characterize this as "Pressac convinced him the Holocaust was real" is wildly wrong. To put this in perspective, it's claimed that around 80 Jews were gassed at Struthof which would be 0.00133% of the orthodox total. And even on that, all he gives us is "maybe."

The change with Cole happened much later, after he disappeared and resurfaced (around 2013). That was when he starting peddling the novel theory that the AR camps were legit but Auschwitz was fake.

[Nessie]

Cole spends a lot of time on X, accepting he did deny in the past, but he is now no longer a denier. He does not tweet anything I have seen, to suggest he is still in denial.

[borjastick]

Cole spends a lot of time on X, accepting he did deny in the past, but he is now no longer a denier. He does not tweet anything I have seen, to suggest he is still in denial.

Being threatened with death has a way of changing your tune I suppose.

[Wahrheitssucher]

Here you go:
https://archive.codohforum.com/20230609 ... ce60a.html

A few of the most notable ones would be J.G. Burg and David Cole.

I don’t think people here at CODOH realise what this person is subtly doing.

Neither Burg nor Cole “DENIED” the entirety of this wide-ranging and imprecise history that is now covered by the quasi-religious term ‘the holocaust’ *.
*See here: https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=14195#p14195

Nor do other jewish and part-jewish critics of the narrative such as Paul Eisen, Ron Unz, Gilad Atzmon, Norman Finkelstein, Corey Lubliner, Prof. Joel Hayward, etc.

CJ is filling the board with topic titles of his/her choosing.
Titles that start with jew-favourable FALSE-premises.

SYNOPSIS:
Questioning, doubting, critiquing and/or disbelieving aspects of the legally-protected WW2 narrative is obviously N O T “denying” ALL of it.
The perjorative “holocaust denier” is a deceptive smear tactic and subtle ‘strawman’.

This ‘confused jew’ has got the forum dancing to its tune again.

May I suggest a moderator change the title of this topic-thread to ‘Jewish holocaust revisionists’ or ‘Jews who question the holocaust narrative’ or something.

[ConfusedJew]

I used this title to specifically distinguish deniers from skeptics or minimizers.

[Stubble]

I ran across this article from Wear in passing, I will share it here.

http://www.wearswar.com/2025/02/05/cour ... holocaust/

An example from the article;

Chess genius Bobby Fisher is another former Jew who publicly exposed the fraudulent nature of the “Holocaust.” He once refused to allow a Jewish chess player to enter his car until the man was willing to admit that the Holocaust was fraudulent. On January 13, 1999, during a live radio broadcast in Budapest, Fischer declared, “As Adolf Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf, the Jews are not the victims, they are the victimizers!”9

[Wahrheitssucher]

I used this title to specifically distinguish deniers from skeptics or minimizers.

Yet you just recently falsely accused me of “denying” your cherished belief-system. So — if this is true — why didn’t you categorise me as a “skeptic” instead? That would have been more accurate and fairer.

You also routinely pose the strawman argument that we here who reply to you “deny the holocaust existed” and “deny it happened”.

So this reply and justification by you above I find very hard to believe.

CONCLUSION:
Jews and jewish organisations routinely accuse ANYONE who questions, doubts and refutes ANY ASPECT of this shibbolith of being a “denier” of all of it.
I think this reply from Confusedjew is either:
a.) dishonest denial or
b.) shows an alarming level of lack of self-awareness.

[Wahrheitssucher]

Cole worked with Pressac who convinced him that the Holocaust was real… [snip]

This sentence is further proof we are dealing with a dimwit who has STILL not understood what is actually being accepted as “real” and what is being debated, questioned and in some aspects refuted.

[Nessie]

A reminder. The topic asked a simple question, are there any Jewish Holocaust deniers, people who outright deny there were any mass murders of Jews, beyond some partisan actions in the east, and there were no gas chambers.