The CODOH Revisionist Forum

On a day in April 1945, the townspeople of Gardelegen in Germany carried 1,100 crosses to a local barn. The crosses were for 1,100 fresh graves, the victims of Gardelegen. But these 1,100 were a small fraction of the 20 million men, women, and children murdered by the Nazis. 20 million human beings, equal to the population of 22 American States, 20 million corpses, the product of 300 concentration camps all over Germany and in occupied territories.
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A few thousand of those 20 million victims survived the years of horror. The faces of these women at Nordhausen tell the story of their sufferings.

Death Mills, a U.S. government propaganda film
https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn1000182

It is easy to cynically imagine that Wilder or Burger or some other Jew put "20 million" in there as a number that sounded extreme but plausible, but what if it, like many other Holocaust lies, actually entailed some distant semblance of an estimate?

You'll find that if you add up the figures given by Rudolf's Holocaust Encyclopedia, specifically on the initial camp death toll claims, you get a total of 17.4 to 21.4 million. Possibly it could be a bit higher or lower if you included more camps or used alternative early claims. Here are those figures:

• Auschwitz: 4 to 8 million
• Bełżec: 3 million
• Chełmno: 1.3 million
• Dachau: 238,000
• Majdanek: 2 million
• Mauthausen: 1 million
• Sachsenhausen: 840,000+
• Sobibór: 2 million
• Treblinka: 3 million

https://holocaustencyclopedia.com/absur ... tolls/279/

Isn't this probably where Death Mills's "20 million" comes from?

I bring this up because Holocaust defenders frequently claim that the Western Powers rejected the Soviets' fake numbers, whereas this appears to be yet another example of the West happily endorsing those numbers.

That seems most likely. This 20 million across 300 camps statement, if it had any basis at all, would have to be relying on Soviet figures in the East. In the case of Mauthausen, the Americans themselves claimed a death toll of a Soviet scale, although this was admittedly an outlier.

I think one reason why the numbers came down earlier in the West (among some not all scholars) was simply that Western scholarship was very Jew-centric, especially in America. There was simply no reason to maintain the outlandish Soviet figures which necessarily would have to include millions of Gentile exterminations. The excess could be conceded without directly threatening anything that mattered to Jews.

In prior eras, revisionists at times would attempt to draw a strong distinction between East and West, but I think this is largely a holdover from the Cold War. The Lachout document also seems to have had some influence in this regard. Nowadays I think most revisionists have come to realize that the Western Allies were at best only marginally better than the communists.

Wetzelrad wrote: ↑Mon Aug 18, 2025 8:05 pm I bring this up because Holocaust defenders frequently claim that the Western Powers rejected the Soviets' fake numbers, whereas this appears to be yet another example of the West happily endorsing those numbers.

Its demonstrable that the Soviet numbers were indeed used liberally in the West, and this is a pinch point for Holocaust enjoyers. Here was one thread where I highlighted another particularly sloppy instance of the 4 million hoax being platformed on BBC in the 1970s

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In the Gerstein Statement made by SS-Obersturmführer (1LT) Kurt Gerstein (1905-1945) in French captivity shortly after the end of the war, and before his suicide, he claimed that 25 million people had been gassed during the war. This is usually explained away by Hoaxsters that Gerstein was projecting into the future, such as if the Nazis had won the war.

Kurt Gerstein was an evangelical Lutheran who had briefly been arrested by the Nazi government for anti-regime political agitation before the war. Gerstein was a degreed mining engineer who had also studied tropical medicine in preparation to serve as a medical missionary in backward countries when the war got in the way of his personal plans.

The Gerstein Statement is thoroughly taken apart in the book by Henri Roques, who was stripped of his doctorate in France for The Confessions of Kurt Gerstein (1989).

During the war, the Waffen-SS recruited Gerstein as a hygiene expert and they were no doubt lucky to get him.

In the vaunted Gerstein Statment, Gerstein pretended to be an anti-Nazi spy who tried to warn the Vatican and the world about the extermination of the Jews.

Gerstein claimed to have visited the concentration camps Belzec and Treblinka to inspect the mass-murder mills going on there ─ along with his boss, SS-Standartenführer (Col.) Dr. Wilhelm Pfannenstiel, a medical doctor and professor of hygiene at the University of Marburg. Pfannenstiel was incarcerated without charges at the end of the war by the Allied victors until 1950.

To the Allied Inqusition after the war, Prof. Pfannstiel denied ever having visited Treblinka with the late Gerstein at all, and he said that, contrary to Gerstein's claims, they never witnessed any homicidal gassing at Belzec ─ although he saw some blue bodies lying about who could have been gassed or something like that. However, both carbon monoxide and hydrogen cyanide turn bodies bright red, and not blue or "cyanotic," which both Gerstein and Prof. Dr. Pfannenstiel would have known, so this oft-cited claim from both is rather suspect.

Where the 25 million figure comes from in reality is the number of people who had been deloused and had their clothing fumigated with hydrogen cyanide gas since the beginning of the war.

This figure was published by Emil Wustinger in a German hygiene paper given in 1944 and cited by Columbia-educated mining engineer and Revisionist Friedrich Paul Berg in his seminal paper: "The German Delousing Chambers."

The Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1986 (Vol. 7, No. 1), pages 73-94.
https://ihr.org/journal/v07p-73_Berg.html


Mr. Berg writes:

At the end of this article I have added a translation of one of the many articles that can be found in the German wartime technical and medical literature discussing the proper use of Zyklon-B for the control of typhus through the extermination of its principal carrier, the body louse. (See appendix.) The article by Emil Wustinger is especially important because of the numbers it gives to show the extent to which the Zyklon-B delousing technology was actually used by the Germans to save people from the ravages of typhus. According to Wustinger, 25 million people had already had their clothing and personal belongings fumigated from the start of the war until the beginning of 1944. This number is, interestingly enough, the same as the one which appears in the Gerstein Statement as the number of people who had been “killed” in gas chambers. [Emphasis added.]