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Ponary

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:35 pm
by Keen
I recieved this little snippet that hopefully will be the beginning of an investigation here into this fraudulent "holocaust within the holocaust:"
Said video is titled: NOVA: Holocaust Escape Tunnel

If you watch from the 12:02 mark to the 16:14 mark, you will see much information about this fraudulently alleged "huge mass grave."

At the 12:22 mark the narrator says:
6 burial pits have been discovered so far
At the 15:13 mark you see a lidar map showing the alleged 7th pit, which is nothing more than a depression near the 6 other pits.

At the 15:30 mark, the charlatan Richard Freund says the following about this so-called "burial pit":

Quote:
It's about 24 meters large, 4 meters deep, so it's a burial pit. If somebody asks you what is going on here, you can say that there are about 5 to 7 thousand people who are buried in this unknown pit.
That's all I got.

Re: Ponary

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:56 pm
by pilgrimofdark
NOVA video
Holocaust Escape Tunnel

Looks like there have been a few examinations of the site. No excavations. A pile of a couple dozen bodies in a photo taken by the Soviet Extraordinary State Commission in August 1944.

The pits were originally used as fuel storage by the Red Army. But instead of killing Jews inside the pits and filling them, the story seems to be that the Nazis dug pits inside the pits for the corpses, then covered the inside pits but not the fuel storage pits.

2021:
Preserving Holocaust History: Geophysical Investigations at the Ponary (Paneriai) Extermination Site
Link

2020:
Mapping Ponar (Paneriai): a reassessment.
Link

2017:
The Forgotten Holocaust in Lithuania - Geophysical Investigations at the Ponary Extermination Site
Link

I came across a few of these papers while looking around for material for the "real world mass grave data" thread.

Uhh, Keen is way better (and funnier) at this than I am, so I'll leave this to the professionals.

Re: Ponary

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 1:16 am
by Stubble
I watched the Nova Docudrama.

They went looking for mass graves, and found a water heater in a school playground...

They also said they found the apparently mythical tunnel. Remarkably, they came up with a way to run electricity to the tunnel project, because there wasn't enough oxygen in the hole for a candle to burn. Plenty for a rotating group of people to work in the tunnel though, that was no problem...