The CODOH Revisionist Forum

With the "great awakening" (for lack of a better term) about Israel and Jews spreading among the younger generations in the past year or so, I couldn't help but think about the rate at which revisionist views on the Holocaust were spreading as well. I did some surface level research to try and find sampling data that could give an estimate on how many people actually hold some revisionist viewpoints.

The most recent poll that I could find via minimal research was published in January of this year and can be found here: (https://www.claimscon.org/country-survey/). I'll attach some of the notable results:
I'm not sure how accurate these results are, but regardless, it shows that there are a decent number of people out there who no longer believe in the official narrative. In Romania especially, apparently .

I believe it is appropriate to say that within the last nine months, these percentages have only gone up. I'm not familiar with any newer quantitative data that can demonstrate my thesis, but I suppose this thread can be used to share any relevant studies that come out in the future or that have already surfaced.

One thing to bear in mind with these results is the changing demographics of these countries. Demographics don't explain all of the generational gap, but they do explain part. Here is a survey which illustrates that.

2015 ADL survey of 10,000 adults internationally.
https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files ... y-2015.pdf
31% of Muslims in Western Europe said Holocaust was exaggerated or myth, compared to 8% of total WE sample.
26.6% of Eastern Europeans said Holocaust was exaggerated or myth.

Upon seeing these results, the ADL might have considered changing their preference for replacement migration. No such luck.

There are tons of surveys on this topic, so there must be a lot of people interested in closely monitoring it. The most widely-reported-on survey is this next one. It includes breakdowns by race, party, income, etc. which is particularly helpful.

2023 survey by The Economist and YouGov of US adults.
https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/d ... T4jyzG.pdf
7% said "Holocaust is a myth", including 20% of 18-29yos.
9% said "Holocaust has been exaggerated", including 23% of 18-29yos.
20% said "Israel exploits Holocaust victimhood", including 36% of 18-29yos.

Sticking to Claims Conference may be the best way to look for a trend across years, but based on what they have published the trend is pretty flat.

2018 Claims Conference survey of US adults.
https://www.claimscon.org/wp-content/up ... ts-1-1.pdf
1% said "the Holocaust is a myth and did not happen".
9% said "the number of Jews who died in it has been greatly exaggerated", including 11% of millenials.

2021 Claims Conference "UK Holocaust Awareness Study".
https://www.claimscon.org/wp-content/up ... -final.pdf
9% of Americans said "Holocaust is a myth or has been greatly exaggerated", with similar numbers for Canada, UK, Austria, and France.

2025 Claims Conference survey of US adults.
https://www.claimscon.org/wp-content/up ... .14.25.pdf
3% said "The Holocaust is a myth and did not happen", including 5% of 18-29yos.
8% said "The Holocaust happened, but the number of Jews who were killed during the Holocaust has been greatly exaggerated", including 15% of 18-29yos.

2025 Claims Conference international survey results.
https://www.claimscon.org/wp-content/up ... .14.25.pdf
Europeans are much more likely to agree than Americans, as shown by some of the graphs you posted.

Separately, there is this strange anomaly:

2020 Claims Conference survey of millennials, results only for the state of New York.
https://www.claimscon.org/wp-content/up ... .11.20.pdf
7% said "the Holocaust is a myth and did not happen".
21% said "the number of Jews who died in it has been greatly exaggerated".
19% said Jews "caused the Holocaust".

Wetzelrad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 30, 2025 6:21 am One thing to bear in mind with these results is the changing demographics of these countries. Demographics don't explain all of the generational gap, but they do explain part. Here is a survey which illustrates that.

2015 ADL survey of 10,000 adults internationally.
https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files ... y-2015.pdf
31% of Muslims in Western Europe said Holocaust was exaggerated or myth, compared to 8% of total WE sample.
26.6% of Eastern Europeans said Holocaust was exaggerated or myth.

Upon seeing these results, the ADL might have considered changing their preference for replacement migration. No such luck.

There are tons of surveys on this topic, so there must be a lot of people interested in closely monitoring it. The most widely-reported-on survey is this next one. It includes breakdowns by race, party, income, etc. which is particularly helpful.

2023 survey by The Economist and YouGov of US adults.
https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/d ... T4jyzG.pdf
7% said "Holocaust is a myth", including 20% of 18-29yos.
9% said "Holocaust has been exaggerated", including 23% of 18-29yos.
20% said "Israel exploits Holocaust victimhood", including 36% of 18-29yos.

While that is promising, asking or saying that 'the Holocaust is exaggerated', still implies it as a fact. And people tend to conflate real war time measures against Jews like deportation and internment with "Holocaust" implying that this was part of some deliberate 'extermination program'.

All of this seems to corroborate what many of us are likely experiencing anecdotally in our own lives - it seems every week, some new person from my own life who knows my professional background, education and politics, will broach the topic of Israel / WWII / Jewish Power. At all levels, even my kids' friends.

The NY anomaly is interesting - had it been a few years later, it could be explained away by the Gaza war and the terrible optics Israel has generated for itself in large minority areas like NY. It predating that event makes me hopeful that this sentiment is rooted more broadly and generally than simply being just a reaction to the Gaza genocide!

HansHill wrote: ↑Thu Oct 30, 2025 4:12 pm All of this seems to corroborate what many of us are likely experiencing anecdotally in our own lives - it seems every week, some new person from my own life who knows my professional background, education and politics, will broach the topic of Israel / WWII / Jewish Power. At all levels, even my kids' friends.

It's almost everyone I talk to having at least some recognition of what is going on, now. It's been very strange, I'm feeling incredulous about it, honestly.

The Charlie Kirk assassination was the straw that broke the camel's back, I think. Way too "convenient" that Charlie of all people (who I had considered "Mr. Israel" before this time) had turned on the Jewish establishment just 48 hours before being shot. The technical aspects don't even really matter as much, I think; that's just way too many "conveniences" for Jews/Israel at this point to be considered natural/organic. No thinking person can possibly believe that this (particularly when coupled with the myriad other suspicions surrounding Jews/Israel and their power and organized schemes) was purely coincidence.

The gaslighting that's worked so well in the past will not have the same effect anymore. We are in "that phase" of the cycle where people recognize what is going on and gradually rise against it, often culminating into major war(s) (or economic collapse) as Jews retaliate, with any postwar environment shaped by the victors, most often through mass media manipulations of mass psychology, leveraging legal frameworks, etc. The problem is, the mass psychology manipulation isn't going to work so well anymore, at least not without more science-fiction kinds of tactics (actual mind control type stuff) which unfortunately is not far from being entirely realistic with the state of technology today. Defensive technology and legal frameworks will need to be produced to counteract this.

While I am hopeful for the future, the "awakening" really is only a modest first step toward any real justice or promise of a free world.

Liberation 75 survey of 6th grade students (12-year-olds) in North America.
https://www.liberation75.org/_files/ugd ... 6ad733.pdf
In 2021, 2.87% were not sure the Holocaust happened at all.
Another 7.33% felt the Holocaust was exaggerated or fabricated.

After this, Liberation 75 subjected Ontario to new Holocaust education mandates, which they unironically refer to as "treatment", as if for a disease. At the same time, Canada amended their criminal code to make Holocaust denial a punishable offense. Liberation 75 conducted a follow-up survey on 6th graders in Ontario.
In 2024, 5% said "I'm not sure the Holocaust actually happened".
Another 6% said the Holocaust was exaggerated.

Skepticism went up, in total. I think they are long past the saturation point. More "treatment" is not going to result in more belief.

> Anti-semitism is a mental illness
> Hitler was the biggest anti-semite in history
> Hitler did the Holocaust
> The mentally ill were one of the chief victims of the Holocaust
> The biggest victim of the Holocaust was Hitler

Wetzelrad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 30, 2025 6:52 am Separately, there is this strange anomaly:

2020 Claims Conference survey of millennials, results only for the state of New York.
https://www.claimscon.org/wp-content/up ... .11.20.pdf
7% said "the Holocaust is a myth and did not happen".
21% said "the number of Jews who died in it has been greatly exaggerated".
19% said Jews "caused the Holocaust".

This could be the New York City metro area overpowering the rest of the state. People in NYC are much more likely to interact with actual Jews on a daily basis than most of the rest of the country.

Separately, this study is hilarious.

Top 4 Holocaust personalities: Hitler, Anne Frank, Oskar Schindler, Elie Wiesel

"Revisionists are so obsessed with Auschwitz!"
> Can you name any concentration camps, death camps,
or ghettos you have heard of?
> #1 - Auschwitz, the only one above a single digit percentage

"Revisionists are so obsessed with 6 million!"
> Approximately how many Jews were killed during the Holocaust? Please select from the following list:
> 25,000
> 100,000
> 1 million
> 2 million
> 6 million
> 20 million

"Revisionists don't have enough training to talk about the Holocaust!"
> At what level of school did you learn about the Holocaust?
> #1. Middle school/Junior high school

To sum up: the government mandates Holocaust education and uses taxpayer dollars to fund it and teaches it to children in middle school. Students learn about Hitler doing the Holocaust, suffer through Anne Frank's pseudodiary and Elie Wiesel's apocalyptic meditations, and escape after watching Schindler's List.

Great points above.

Here is an amusing headline: The World Is Full of Holocaust Deniers. This chart is based on ADL data from 2014.

Here are some results over time for the UK. None of these surveys are directly comparable, but they're the best we've got.

2004 Jewish Chronicle survey of British adults.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/jan ... tionpolicy
15% said Holocaust had been exaggerated, including 19% of recent school leavers.

2007 Jewish Chronicle survey of British adults.
https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/d ... 070119.pdf
1% said "The Holocaust was a myth", including 2% of 18-29yos.
4% said the Holocaust was exaggerated, including 6% of 18-29yos.
63% said "UK Parliament should not pass a law making ‘Holocaust denial' a criminal offence".

2009 survey by YouGov of British adults.
https://ygo-assets-websites-editorial-e ... VfJNHf.pdf
9% said Holocaust was "partially true but exaggerated".

2023 Claims Conference survey of British adults.
https://www.claimscon.org/wp-content/up ... .14.25.pdf
2% said "The Holocaust is a myth and did not happen."
8% said "the number of Jews who were killed during the Holocaust has been greatly exaggerated."

2025 YouGov survey of British adults.
https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/d ... JU8Eud.pdf
9% said "Jewish people talk about the Holocaust just to further their political agenda" in September, up from 7% in August 2024.

That last one is just a proxy, but it does indicate a recent upward shift. Still, I'm not convinced of any real trend over time.

pilgrimofdark wrote: ↑Thu Oct 30, 2025 11:47 pm > Anti-semitism is a mental illness
> Hitler was the biggest anti-semite in history
> Hitler did the Holocaust
> The mentally ill were one of the chief victims of the Holocaust
> The biggest victim of the Holocaust was Hitler

Wetzelrad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 30, 2025 6:52 am Separately, there is this strange anomaly:

Jews were way less important to NS or Hitler than is commonly assumed.
Neither were the handicapped.

pilgrimofdark wrote: ↑Thu Oct 30, 2025 11:47 pm

Wetzelrad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 30, 2025 6:52 am 2020 Claims Conference survey of millennials, results only for the state of New York.
https://www.claimscon.org/wp-content/up ... .11.20.pdf
7% said "the Holocaust is a myth and did not happen".
21% said "the number of Jews who died in it has been greatly exaggerated".
19% said Jews "caused the Holocaust".

This could be the New York City metro area overpowering the rest of the state. People in NYC are much more likely to interact with actual Jews on a daily basis than most of the rest of the country.

Critique or even hostility towards Jews arises as response to Jewish behaviour. Most folks couldn't care less about Jews, if they minded their own business.

pilgrimofdark wrote: ↑Thu Oct 30, 2025 11:47 pm Separately, this study is hilarious.
Top 4 Holocaust personalities: Hitler, Anne Frank, Oskar Schindler, Elie Wiesel
"Revisionists are so obsessed with Auschwitz!"
> Can you name any concentration camps, death camps,
or ghettos you have heard of?
> #1 - Auschwitz, the only one above a single digit percentage

Auschwitz figured in the narrative since the Holocaust soap opera was broad-casted. And while that was neither a documentary nor based on a true story (Hence fiction), it was that type of series that persuaded most people into believing the Holocaust Narrative.

pilgrimofdark wrote: ↑Thu Oct 30, 2025 11:47 pm

"Revisionists are so obsessed with 6 million!"
> Approximately how many Jews were killed during the Holocaust? Please select from the following list:
> 25,000
> 100,000
> 1 million
> 2 million
> 6 million
> 20 million

They ain't. It's those peddling the Holocaust Narrative that are obsessed the figure. Revisionists were just asking what the evidence for this figure was and the evidence they got was wanting.

pilgrimofdark wrote: ↑Thu Oct 30, 2025 11:47 pm "Revisionists don't have enough training to talk about the Holocaust!"
> At what level of school did you learn about the Holocaust?
> #1. Middle school/Junior high school

To sum up: the government mandates Holocaust education and uses taxpayer dollars to fund it and teaches it to children in middle school. Students learn about Hitler doing the Holocaust, suffer through Anne Frank's pseudodiary and Elie Wiesel's apocalyptic meditations, and escape after watching Schindler's List.

Classic ad hominem / appeal to authority argument. What they actually tell you is that you were not brainwashed enough by the education system and that's why we can't take you serious. Meanwhile revisionist authors got training in all kinds of fields both humanities, natural sciences, technical subjects etc. And they do understand that there are rules of evidence, which for some strange reasons never are applied to 'the Holocaust Narratives', which is expected to be believed at face value....