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The lack of denial of the Holocaust, from European governments.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 12:44 pm
by Nessie
Sanity Check made this point;

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=21157#p21157
I am not referring to rejection by a social group for partisan or other reasons, since atrocity denial and minimisation or deflection happens now in realtime in the social media era. There's little doubt that Germans and Austrians in the postwar era were often in denial about Nazi crimes, did not want to talk about them, and expressed doubt when polled. It's also clear that despite a strong motive and incentive to try to figure out how to deny Nazi crimes and "revise history", postwar Germans and Austrians utterly failed to assemble the kind of counter-evidence which would have challenged the evidence publicised in the 1940s, much less the sources which accumulated from the 1950s onwards.
That also applies to every European country that was aligned to or occupied by the Nazis. The amount of cooperation the Nazis had, for their actions against Jews, is why so many died during the war. Like the Germans and Austrians, many Europeans have been in denial, primarily by omission, of their role in the many crimes of the Holocaust.

For example, from the website of the Latvian Embassy in Sweden.

https://www2.mfa.gov.lv/en/stockholm/bi ... h-problems

"It is an important task for historians of Latvia to refute the rather widely spread misinformation regarding the participation of Latvians in units of the German troops during the Nazi occupation. There is no basis directly to connect the Latvian Legion (the voluntary Latvian SS legion) which began to develop in early 1943 with the crimes committed by the earlier established military or paramilitary units. The link: self-defence- police battalions- legion, created by propaganda unfriendly to Latvia, connect the blame with the membership and is not based on facts. Latvian soldiers did not take part in repressive operations."

Then, from the US Department of State;

https://www.state.gov/reports/just-act- ... ess/latvia

"Following Nazi Germany’s invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941, the Nazis occupied Latvia. Detachments of German Einsatzgruppen (mobile killing units), together with certain Latvian and other auxiliaries, massacred most Latvian Jews during the period of Nazi occupation from 1941 to 1944"

A Holocaust history website is more forthright about Latvian assistance;

https://www.het.org.uk/news-and-events/ ... ult-legacy

"Many Latvians believe that the Latvian Waffen SS Legion could not have played a role in the Holocaust as it was not officially formed until later in the war (1943). However, substantial evidence including a series of personal accounts and confirmation received from the trial of Adolf Eichmann, supports that unknown numbers of Latvian Waffen SS soldiers acting as auxillary police were involved in the murder of Jews between 1941 and 1942. Nearly 67,000 Jews, 90 percent of Latvia’s pre-war Jewish population, were killed in 1941-42.
What is striking and often shamefully forgotten is the fact that not one of the numerous Latvian killers who collaborated with the Nazis has been brought to justice since Latvia obtained its independence. Some of the individuals who joined the Waffen SS in 1943 had already been part of the 16 auxillary police (SD) battalions. Some had been members of the ‘Arajs Team’, comprising up to 1,500 Latvian men, notorious as ghetto executioners."

As Sanity Check said about the Germans and Austrians, the Latvians have failed to produce "counter-evidence" that no mass murders took place. Instead, they try to deny and diminish their involvement and responsibility. The evidence to prove that the 67,000 Latvian Jews historians state were killed in the Holocaust by 1942, were in fact still alive after that and they were liberated in 1945. If the Holocaust was a Soviet hoax, as many so-called revisionists like to allege, then why, after gaining independence, did the Latvian government not blow their part in that hoax and produce evidence to prove Latvian Jews were not mass murdered by Einsatzgruppen and Latvian soldiers?

No European government, since 1945, no matter what its political outlook and policies have been, has produced counter evidence to prove that it's Jewish citizens were not being murdered, as part of Nazi policy and produced evidence of their survival.

Re: The lack of denial of the Holocaust, from European governments.

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2026 1:47 am
by Keen
Nessie wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2026 12:44 pm No European government, since 1945, no matter what its political outlook and policies have been, has produced counter evidence to prove that it's Jewish citizens were not being murdered, as part of Nazi policy and produced evidence of their survival.
So for arguments sake, lets say that is true.

So what does it mean when it comes to the fraudulently alleged "pure extermination centers"?

How many jews does that prove currently lie in the 100 fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves" of Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II?

How does that affect the answer to this foundational legal question:

Is it reasonable to doubt that the remains of 2.145 million jews are currently buried in the 100 specifically identified locations identified by the http://thisisaboutscience.com/ website - Yes. - or - No. - ??