The 6,000,000 number, a fable?

[TlsMS93]

If the historically agreed death toll was 5 million, and that was the commonly used number by the media, then Holocaust conspiracists would cherry-pick pre and wartime references to 5 million, and claim, look, it was predicted!

If Prussian Blue were visible in those gas chambers, exterminationists would say it was smoking gun evidence of gassing.

[Nessie]

If the historically agreed death toll was 5 million, and that was the commonly used number by the media, then Holocaust conspiracists would cherry-pick pre and wartime references to 5 million, and claim, look, it was predicted!

If Prussian Blue were visible in those gas chambers, exterminationists would say it was smoking gun evidence of gassing.

No, it would be yet more evidence that corroborates mass gassings took place. There is no such thing as smoking gun evidence of something as large as the Holocaust, that covered multiple countries, involved millions of people over many years. Even a Hitler order, as blatant as ordering the gassing of Jews, would need corroboration from other evidence that is what actually happened.

[Nazgul]

If the historically agreed death toll was 5 million, and that was the commonly used number by the media, then Holocaust conspiracists would cherry-pick pre and wartime references to 5 million, and claim, look, it was predicted!

If Prussian Blue were visible in those gas chambers, exterminationists would say it was smoking gun evidence of gassing.

No, it would be yet more evidence that corroborates mass gassings took place. There is no such thing as smoking gun evidence of something as large as the Holocaust, that covered multiple countries, involved millions of people over many years. Even a Hitler order, as blatant as ordering the gassing of Jews, would need corroboration from other evidence that is what actually happened.

This is off topic.

[Stubble]

Still digging for an older source, part of the nature of occult knowledge is that it is by definition 'hidden' or 'secret' knowledge, thus, tracing it all the way down to Zionist kaballists may be a fruitless endeavor.



That said, this quote from rabbi Blech is presented as it stands.

[TlsMS93]

Still digging for an older source, part of the nature of occult knowledge is that it is by definition 'hidden' or 'secret' knowledge, thus, tracing it all the way down to Zionist kaballists may be a fruitless endeavor.



That said, this quote from rabbi Blech is presented as it stands.

The number 6 in Jewish mysticism has a negative connotation, that which belongs to the evil inclination, while 7 is its antithesis. Did the Germans build exactly 6 extermination camps or did these people who worship numbers preconceive these camps as such for their founding myth of modern Israel?

[Stubble]

Still digging for an older source, part of the nature of occult knowledge is that it is by definition 'hidden' or 'secret' knowledge, thus, tracing it all the way down to Zionist kaballists may be a fruitless endeavor.



That said, this quote from rabbi Blech is presented as it stands.

The number 6 in Jewish mysticism has a negative connotation, that which belongs to the evil inclination, while 7 is its antithesis. Did the Germans build exactly 6 extermination camps or did these people who worship numbers preconceive these camps as such for their founding myth of modern Israel?

6, 666, and 6,000,000 are all symbolic of perfection in jewish number magic.

https://ohr.edu/ask_db/ask_main.php/277/Q1/

We do know that the number six represents the physical world. The Torah describes the creation of the universe as a six part, six day, process. Our ancient sources describe the universe as emanating in six directions -- north, south, east, west, up, down -- from a central point. All physical space and all physical objects have these six dimensions.

I'll poke around for a better quote about 'perfection' and the number 6. Perhaps 'completion' is a better descriptor.

I'll stick to kosher sources.

Another source;

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/whats-in-a-number-6/

This is a special number. The six days of creation culminate in Shabbat, the day of rest. However, the number six is a multiple of two and three, the female and the male. The marriage of male and female is a joining. Indeed, the animals and then finally mankind were created on the sixth day of creation, which makes it a special number for mankind.

And from chabad we get;

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_ ... ection.htm

Six also represents completion, because something that is surrounded on all six sides—north, south, east, west, above and below—is complete.

[bombsaway]

Ok let's say religious Jews believed 6 million died in part because 6 is a special number. What does this have to do with what this forum is about, which is a deliberate attempt to spread mistruth, or the question posed in Keen's thread, where this knowledge is linked to the Holocaust being faked.

[Stubble]

Ok let's say religious Jews believed 6 million died in part because 6 is a special number. What does this have to do with what this forum is about, which is a deliberate attempt to spread mistruth?

Could you reframe the query? I don't understand what you are asking.

Your edit didn't give much clarification, I still don't understand the question.

[bombsaway]

Ok let's say religious Jews believed 6 million died in part because 6 is a special number. What does this have to do with what this forum is about, which is a deliberate attempt to spread mistruth?

Could you reframe the query? I don't understand what you are asking.

What's the relevance to the hoax? If people believe this honestly, they believe 6 million died.

[Stubble]

An example of guzma tying the event to the jewish zeitgeist as a fulfillment of prophecy, making the founding of the state for the jewish people on the magic dirt of Canaan a fulfillment of gods promise to zealots and zionists.

[bombsaway]

An example of guzma tying the event to the jewish zeitgeist as a fulfillment of prophecy, making the founding of the state for the jewish people on the magic dirt of Canaan a fulfillment of gods promise to zealots and zionists.

Entirely speculative because you have shown no evidence of this happening (this is more faulty pattern recognition on your part), though I guess you will say Jews were thinking this behind closed doors ... even so, does this have anything to do with the event being faked? ( the central question of this forum)

[Stubble]

I mean, to start with there is the fact that the figure is fake as a 3 dollar bill.

/shrug

The books I would cite you probably wouldn't like, and I have diverged from hunting Hungarian jews to vet source on so far 4 separate books where this specifically is concerned.

I haven't devoted a whole lot of my time specifically to the 6,000,000 person question. I have spent some time looking at jewish number magic, the history of the Levant, jewish culture etc. That 'laid the sod' for my acceptance of this 'hypothesis' I suppose.

Earlier I mentioned that as occult knowledge, this particular may well be, by definition, hidden or secret.

I also reiterate I find rabbinical scholars talking 'around' this prophecy generally and not speaking 'to' it.

/shrug

Am I bias? Yes.

Is it possible that might be influencing my point of view? Sure.

Did I go back in time and have jews kvetch about 6,000,000 jews over and over for decades before during and after ww2? Well, no, actually I didn't.

[bombsaway]

I mean, to start with there is the fact that the figure is fake as a 3 dollar bill.

/shrug

The books I would cite you probably wouldn't like, and I have diverged from hunting Hungarian jews to vet source on so far 4 separate books where this specifically is concerned.

I haven't devoted a whole lot of my time specifically to the 6,000,000 person question. I have spent some time looking at jewish number magic, the history of the Levant, jewish culture etc. That 'laid the sod' for my acceptance of this 'hypothesis' I suppose.

Earlier I mentioned that as occult knowledge, this particular may well be, by definition, hidden or secret.

I also reiterate I find rabbinical scholars talking 'around' this prophecy generally and not speaking 'to' it.

/shrug

Am I bias? Yes.

Is it possible that might be influencing my point of view? Sure.

Did I go back in time and have jews kvetch about 6,000,000 jews over and over for decades before during and after ww2? Well, no, actually I didn't.

I'm granting you, for the sake of conversation, that it was significant for them. But again, what is the relevance to this event being mass fabricated (with hundreds of false documents and witness testimonies being generated, millions of witnesses suppressed and documents destroyed)

[Stubble]

6,000,000 pairs of shoes is part of the branding man. You know, a lot of lost soles.

This 'symbolic number' is still promoted, regardless of how thoroughly it gets debunked, because it is part of the industry trademark, like a stamp with a (((K))) or (((U))) means I have paid my tax to a jew to be able to move food from my plate to my mouth.

'What does the number 6,000,000 have to do with the holocaust?'...

What an odd question.

[bombsaway]

6,000,000 pairs of shoes is part of the branding man. You know, a lot of lost soles.

This 'symbolic number' is still promoted, regardless of how thoroughly it gets debunked, because it is part of the industry trademark, like a stamp with a (((K))) or (((U))) means I have paid my tax to a jew to be able to move food from my plate to my mouth.

'What does the number 6,000,000 have to do with the holocaust?'...

What an odd question.

No, that's not my question

what is the relevance to this event being mass fabricated