Polish has noun declension. There are endings for grammatical case (accusative, dative, genitive, etc).
Nominative: Wiernik
Genitive: Wiernika
Dative: Wiernikowi
Accusative: Wiernika
Instrumental: Wiernikiem
Locative: Wierniku
Vocative: Wierniku
This problem comes up a lot in genealogy. I don't do genealogy, but I've known people who are really into it. Coincidental name matches seem to be more common than people think. Looking at dates and locations is essential. Even there sometimes you can get people who coincidently have the same info, especially in large cities.Wetzelrad wrote: ↑Fri Sep 19, 2025 3:13 am"What are the odds" is a question that occurs to me repeatedly, because there are so many instances of Wierniks and Rozenbergs and Bermans and others who show up in the same documents. It has to be said that many of these are common Jewish names. It would actually be surprising if there isn't a second Jankiel Wiernik.pilgrimofdark wrote: ↑Thu Sep 18, 2025 11:31 pm Someone named Aron Z. Rotenberg of Lodz/New York submitted a testimony page of "Jankiel Wiernik" born in Lodz in 1873. He also submitted 69 total records. And what are the odds he has the same last name as the shoemaker? Rosenberg/Rotenberg/Rottenberga was used in the 1935-1936 papers.
You would not believe the number of Mordka Rosenbergs there are in the Arolsen Archives. One fits the age of the shoemaker. Listed with 2 unnamed children, no info on who they were or if anyone survived the war.
Aron Rotenberg also submitted a testimony that Aron Wiernik born 1880 was dead.
This 1937/39 Lodz address book has a Aron Rotenberg, Jankiel Wiernik, Aron Wiernik, among others, including a Jakób Wiernik at Jankiel Wiernik's old street address. Probably just another relative.
https://archive.org/details/bc.wbp.lodz ... 41/page/72
Based on the date of this I think we can reasonably infer that Lodz's Jankiel Wiernik was a separate person from the one in Warsaw.
Subversive communist gets caught, sent to jail in Siberia, forced army service, then settles outside of Russia in independent Poland and engages in subversive communist activities.Yankel Wiernik /Jankiel Wiernik, is the author of a Yiddish manuscript titled “A Year in Treblinka.” Wiernik was born in 1890 in Biala Podlaski, Poland. He belonged to the Bund Socialist Jewish Organization in Eastern Europe, was arrested and sent to Siberia. After completing a term of service in the Tsarist Army he settled in Warsaw, where he became a building contractor. On August 23, 1942, he was deported to Treblinka. Almost a year after his deportation, he escaped from Treblinka during the uprising of August 2, 1943. In 1944/45, he wrote his memoir in order to let the world know what went on in Treblinka. Wiernik was also a witness at several trials against the German Nazi commanders who were captured. Wiernik's manuscript was translated from Yiddish to English, and it can be found at: http://www.zchor.org/treblink/wiernik.htm
- "Dr. Laykher." Wyszków Memorial Book.
This story was also published in Expres Zagłębia, August 5th:pilgrimofdark wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 12:29 am Gazeta Polska has more info on the investigation from August 8, 1935.
The communist authorities in the capital uncovered a perfectly secret communist printing house [...]
"ban on living in four provinces"pilgrimofdark wrote: ↑Thu Sep 18, 2025 8:48 pm 1913 - banned from Russia?
On the ban on living in four provinces of the country for Adam Bardziński and Jankiel Wiernik, who were found to be members of political organizations in the Petrograd Governorate.
- Archiwum Główne Akt Dawnych
This corroborates that he was banned around 1913, and it tells us the ban lasted for only two years or fewer.In 1912, he contributed to the founding of an amateur orchestra. That same year, betrayed by his neighbors for his independence work, he was arrested. After six months in prison, he received two years of administrative exile, which was shortened by the war. He was a member of the "Zaraniarzy" (Społem), POW (Polish Military District), and Strzelec (Rifleman) associations.
In 1916, he co-founded the "Społem" District Cooperative in Opatów near Częstochowa [...]
You have a point there. As the leader (or whatever position) of Zegota, it makes sense that Berman had Zegota distribution lists. It doesn't make sense that he had a handwritten draft of Rok w Treblince. Plus what appears to be a typewritten draft. From that, one could imagine some ghostwriting took place.
Or perhaps Wiernik wrote and submitted the first draft in his handwriting, then someone else tidied it up by removing the chlorine, adding flowery and emotional language, and adding many additional pages of text.
Did you come up with this on your own? Because it connects neatly with an earlier version of Wiernik's story in which the revolt was May 28, 1943. (This version was credited to an anonymous Jewish escapee, but the details show 100% it was written by or in connection with Wiernik. See Mattogno p.126.)Archie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 18, 2025 5:36 am One possible scenario would be that he simply returned to Warsaw before June 1943 and then lied about being there in August because he wanted to include the dramatic Treblinka uprising in his story. That's pure conjecture on my part. But I could see a storyteller wanting to include that.
This is also quoted in a German book:Wetzelrad wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 5:39 am Because it connects neatly with an earlier version of Wiernik's story in which the revolt was May 28, 1943. (This version was credited to an anonymous Jewish escapee, but the details show 100% it was written by or in connection with Wiernik. See Mattogno p.126.)
It occurs to me now that a May 28 escape dovetails neatly with his June 1 papers. Something like what you say must be true, because he literally changed the date for it.
This fits more neatly with the June 1, 1943 date stamp on his ID card under a false identity, but retcons are sometimes difficult to keep consistent with reality.At the end of May, we were ready, but the date was canceled. The groups of five had been assigned various tasks (attacking the guardhouse, eliminating the guards after luring them away from the tower, setting fires, tearing down the barbed wire fence). On the 28th at 5:30 a.m., our “uprising” began.
Mattogno's source was Kraj November 28, but actually September 28 is correct. IX versus XI. Here is a scan of that paper:1 AAN, 1325/202/II-29, p. 72. This document was translated from Polish. Reprinted in: Kraj, No. 9/10, September 28, 1943, pp. 30–31. Świadkowie zbrodni. Kraj. Agencja Informacyjna (The Country. News Agency) was the press service of the Government Delegation, which appeared once or twice a week from July 1943 onwards with a circulation of 750 copies under the editorship of Kirył Sosnowski (1910–1966).
