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pilgrimofdark
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Re: Majdanek this and that

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Eight documents on Lublin/Majdanek from August 1944 by the Polish-Soviet Extraordinary Commission are published online here.

Majdanek concentration camp. Research. Documents. Memories

They come from different GARF page numbers than what is included in Mattogno's book on the camp.

I don't know if they contain info that's already known, or just the typical Polish-Soviet 1944 hallucinations.

Document 8 (page 14/26 "408") says they did some testing:
There were a total of six such chambers. Some were adapted for killing with carbon monoxide gas, others for killing with the chemical poison "Zyklon B".

On the camp grounds, 535 cans of "Zyklon B" and several cylinders containing carbon monoxide were found. Chemical analysis established the following:

"The contents of the cans were tested for the presence of hydrocyanic acid using the Prussian blue formation reaction, benzidine acetate indicator paper, and sodium nitrate. Samples were taken from 18 cans, and 48 separate reactions were performed. All samples gave a positive result for the presence of hydrocyanic acid with the aforementioned reagents... Thus, the examined contents of the cans represent the preparation "Zyklon B," consisting of specially prepared diatomaceous earth in the form of granules, up to 1 cm in size, impregnated with liquid stabilized hydrocyanic acid."

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"The technical and sanitary-chemical analysis of the gas chambers at the Majdanek concentration camp fully confirms that all these chambers, especially I, II, III and IV, were intended for and used for the mass and systematic extermination of people by poisoning with highly toxic gases, such as: hydrocyanic acid (the preparation "Zyklon") and carbon monoxide."
They're all in Russian, but you can set your browser to auto-translate.

Everyone else seems to be way ahead of me on Majdanek, so I'm not sure if these are helpful or old news.
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I have a PDF file that I in a row with Mr. Hunt for at least the possible routes of the male inmates through B41 when there was a gassing going on in the room with a window.
Recall the North door of the B41 shower is a sealable door and would be closed if gassing lice mites and fleas
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Re: Majdanek this and that

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pilgrimofdark wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 2:59 pm Eight documents on Lublin/Majdanek from August 1944 by the Polish-Soviet Extraordinary Commission are published online here.

Majdanek concentration camp. Research. Documents. Memories

They come from different GARF page numbers than what is included in Mattogno's book on the camp.

I don't know if they contain info that's already known, or just the typical Polish-Soviet 1944 hallucinations.
Thanks, I wasn't able to find this on my own. Maybe the reason they haven't been published in plain English is because they are so conspicuously filled with lies or exaggerations. Even the people who compiled and edited this book had to add a lot of corrective footnotes for that reason.

These reports are not strictly the same as what Graf/Mattogno included. The technical reports on gassing and cremation are totally missing from this collection. I don't have much of consequence to say that hasn't already been said better by Graf/Mattogno. Still, here are my thoughts.

These reports are very propagandistic reading from top to bottom. Among many absurdities, they said moldy horse sausage was "considered a special delicacy" (p.311), and also "crushed glass was added to the food" to kill people (p.312), and "Infants were smashed against walls and trees, some were torn in half" (p.317). Obviously someone who makes up stories like this will still be making up stories when he talks about gas chambers and torture. None the less, this is the Holocaust Narrative, so we all pretend it must be taken seriously.

The first and only mention of photographs was made in the context of the gas chambers and crematorium (p.333). Are those photos available somewhere? More to the point, why didn't they take photos to prove what were claimed to be the bones "of hundreds of thousands of people" (p.319)?

An incredible claim was made about Zyklon B (p.334):
The "Zyklon" preparation, by its very nature, could only be used for suffocating people, and in no case for any disinfection purposes. The chemical expert analysis entirely confirms that the design of the gas chambers and the chemical devices found in them served exclusively one main purpose, which guided everything at Majdanek – the purpose of exterminating as many people as possible.
So the Soviet position was that a common disinfestant could never be used for disinfestation, and a place designed explicitly as a "disinfestation facility" did not even have a dual purpose of disinfestation but was instead exclusively used for murder. This is extremely far from the museum's current position.

A witness by the name of Tadeusz Budzyn described a strange process for the supposed "Harvest Festival". Whereas the official narrative is that the fence of Field V was cut open to walk the victims to the pits, Budzyn claimed the victims were sent through "a special trench" which went literally "under the barracks" in which they undressed. The trench was dug just "that moment". (p.343) Another witness by the name of Andrei Stanislavsky corroborated that there was a tunnel (p.352). The Soviets must have realized some time later that cutting a fence made more sense than digging a tunnel under a fence and a building.

One document includes a remarkable speech by the Jewish Zionist Emil Sommerstein, chairman of the newly formed Central Committee of the Jews in Poland. Sommerstein's idea was that the commission's findings at Majdanek should be used to propagandize the whole world. Here are a few sentences (pp.335-336):
What we have heard must be spoken about, it must be shouted on all the streets, at all the crossroads, to the whole world. [...] The description of Majdanek, like an injection, must be administered to all people against the German contagion. [...] But at Majdanek, all available material evidence must be preserved as a heritage of all mankind. Streams
of visitors should flock to these places, just as processions go to great world shrines.
Very prescient, if not causative. Sommerstein also helped question witnesses.

Numerous speakers spoke about Jewish victimhood or even the superior victimhood of Jews. This surprised me since I have often been told that the Soviets erased Jewish identity from the Holocaust.

I would like to hear what the editors of this book, or really anyone at all, think of the copious handwritten "corrections" made to witness testimonies. In some places whole questions and answers were crossed out. In others there are material rewordings. For example a witness claimed the victims of gassing had their "lungs burst", but someone downgraded this to say that their "lung tissue could not withstand" the gas (p.351). Every page of the report on witness testimony has a bunch of these corrections. Wasn't this an overt rewriting of history?

In the conclusion to the report on witness testimony, a handwritten correction changed the number of dead from 2,000,000 to 1,500,000 (p.362). There are some other changes similar to this, e.g. "more than" was downgraded to "approximately" (p.418).

Perhaps this entire commission could be summed up with one handwritten note which asked, "How does he know this?" but which was then subsequently crossed out (p.404).

I am retaining an English translation of these reports to reference and pull quotes from in the future.
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Re: Majdanek this and that

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Wetzelrad wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 3:50 pm I would like to hear what the editors of this book, or really anyone at all, think of the copious handwritten "corrections" made to witness testimonies. In some places whole questions and answers were crossed out. In others there are material rewordings. For example a witness claimed the victims of gassing had their "lungs burst", but someone downgraded this to say that their "lung tissue could not withstand" the gas (p.351). Every page of the report on witness testimony has a bunch of these corrections. Wasn't this an overt rewriting of history?
It's a real "how the sausage is made" moment with the Soviet reports.

Investigators materially altering the accounts of "eyewitnesses."

If you believe it happened, you're a conspiracy-brained cultist. But it's literally written all over the reports.

The ChGK Draft Report on the deportation of US and British citizens to Treblinka also has numerous corrections. Footnotes indicate where the editors changed the reports, trying to construct a coherent narrative. Then the whole thing was just discarded, despite eight interrogation protocols "corroborating" the entire narrative.

The one thing missing from the Majdanek documents is actual interrogation protocols for each witness. I don't know if they exist or not.

The full Russian Majdanek book is online from "the usual suspects," but as a DJVU which can be converted into a PDF. It has more background info, but very few photos.

The 1st Belorussian Front seized Lublin on July 21, 1944, so the ChGK was doing its investigation less than a month later. The 1st Belorussian Front was also responsible for seizing the Treblinka area and beginning investigations in August, although the ChGK didn't do their Treblinka investigation until October.
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