Majdanek this and that

[pilgrimofdark]

Eight documents on Lublin/Majdanek from August 1944 by the Polish-Soviet Extraordinary Commission are published online here.

Majdanek concentration camp. Research. Documents. Memories

They come from different GARF page numbers than what is included in Mattogno's book on the camp.

I don't know if they contain info that's already known, or just the typical Polish-Soviet 1944 hallucinations.

Document 8 (page 14/26 "408") says they did some testing:

There were a total of six such chambers. Some were adapted for killing with carbon monoxide gas, others for killing with the chemical poison "Zyklon B".

On the camp grounds, 535 cans of "Zyklon B" and several cylinders containing carbon monoxide were found. Chemical analysis established the following:

"The contents of the cans were tested for the presence of hydrocyanic acid using the Prussian blue formation reaction, benzidine acetate indicator paper, and sodium nitrate. Samples were taken from 18 cans, and 48 separate reactions were performed. All samples gave a positive result for the presence of hydrocyanic acid with the aforementioned reagents... Thus, the examined contents of the cans represent the preparation "Zyklon B," consisting of specially prepared diatomaceous earth in the form of granules, up to 1 cm in size, impregnated with liquid stabilized hydrocyanic acid."

...

"The technical and sanitary-chemical analysis of the gas chambers at the Majdanek concentration camp fully confirms that all these chambers, especially I, II, III and IV, were intended for and used for the mass and systematic extermination of people by poisoning with highly toxic gases, such as: hydrocyanic acid (the preparation "Zyklon") and carbon monoxide."

They're all in Russian, but you can set your browser to auto-translate.

Everyone else seems to be way ahead of me on Majdanek, so I'm not sure if these are helpful or old news.

[Fred Ziffel]

I have a PDF file that I in a row with Mr. Hunt for at least the possible routes of the male inmates through B41 when there was a gassing going on in the room with a window.
Recall the North door of the B41 shower is a sealable door and would be closed if gassing lice mites and fleas
see next post for more photos
Sorry I do not have date for greenish photo

[Fred Ziffel]

inside the shower
U turn at the North shower door

[Wetzelrad]

Eight documents on Lublin/Majdanek from August 1944 by the Polish-Soviet Extraordinary Commission are published online here.

Majdanek concentration camp. Research. Documents. Memories

They come from different GARF page numbers than what is included in Mattogno's book on the camp.

I don't know if they contain info that's already known, or just the typical Polish-Soviet 1944 hallucinations.

Thanks, I wasn't able to find this on my own. Maybe the reason they haven't been published in plain English is because they are so conspicuously filled with lies or exaggerations. Even the people who compiled and edited this book had to add a lot of corrective footnotes for that reason.

These reports are not strictly the same as what Graf/Mattogno included. The technical reports on gassing and cremation are totally missing from this collection. I don't have much of consequence to say that hasn't already been said better by Graf/Mattogno. Still, here are my thoughts.

These reports are very propagandistic reading from top to bottom. Among many absurdities, they said moldy horse sausage was "considered a special delicacy" (p.311), and also "crushed glass was added to the food" to kill people (p.312), and "Infants were smashed against walls and trees, some were torn in half" (p.317). Obviously someone who makes up stories like this will still be making up stories when he talks about gas chambers and torture. None the less, this is the Holocaust Narrative, so we all pretend it must be taken seriously.

The first and only mention of photographs was made in the context of the gas chambers and crematorium (p.333). Are those photos available somewhere? More to the point, why didn't they take photos to prove what were claimed to be the bones "of hundreds of thousands of people" (p.319)?

An incredible claim was made about Zyklon B (p.334):

The "Zyklon" preparation, by its very nature, could only be used for suffocating people, and in no case for any disinfection purposes. The chemical expert analysis entirely confirms that the design of the gas chambers and the chemical devices found in them served exclusively one main purpose, which guided everything at Majdanek – the purpose of exterminating as many people as possible.

So the Soviet position was that a common disinfestant could never be used for disinfestation, and a place designed explicitly as a "disinfestation facility" did not even have a dual purpose of disinfestation but was instead exclusively used for murder. This is extremely far from the museum's current position.

A witness by the name of Tadeusz Budzyn described a strange process for the supposed "Harvest Festival". Whereas the official narrative is that the fence of Field V was cut open to walk the victims to the pits, Budzyn claimed the victims were sent through "a special trench" which went literally "under the barracks" in which they undressed. The trench was dug just "that moment". (p.343) Another witness by the name of Andrei Stanislavsky corroborated that there was a tunnel (p.352). The Soviets must have realized some time later that cutting a fence made more sense than digging a tunnel under a fence and a building.

One document includes a remarkable speech by the Jewish Zionist Emil Sommerstein, chairman of the newly formed Central Committee of the Jews in Poland. Sommerstein's idea was that the commission's findings at Majdanek should be used to propagandize the whole world. Here are a few sentences (pp.335-336):

What we have heard must be spoken about, it must be shouted on all the streets, at all the crossroads, to the whole world. [...] The description of Majdanek, like an injection, must be administered to all people against the German contagion. [...] But at Majdanek, all available material evidence must be preserved as a heritage of all mankind. Streams
of visitors should flock to these places, just as processions go to great world shrines.

Very prescient, if not causative. Sommerstein also helped question witnesses.

Numerous speakers spoke about Jewish victimhood or even the superior victimhood of Jews. This surprised me since I have often been told that the Soviets erased Jewish identity from the Holocaust.

I would like to hear what the editors of this book, or really anyone at all, think of the copious handwritten "corrections" made to witness testimonies. In some places whole questions and answers were crossed out. In others there are material rewordings. For example a witness claimed the victims of gassing had their "lungs burst", but someone downgraded this to say that their "lung tissue could not withstand" the gas (p.351). Every page of the report on witness testimony has a bunch of these corrections. Wasn't this an overt rewriting of history?

In the conclusion to the report on witness testimony, a handwritten correction changed the number of dead from 2,000,000 to 1,500,000 (p.362). There are some other changes similar to this, e.g. "more than" was downgraded to "approximately" (p.418).

Perhaps this entire commission could be summed up with one handwritten note which asked, "How does he know this?" but which was then subsequently crossed out (p.404).

I am retaining an English translation of these reports to reference and pull quotes from in the future.

[pilgrimofdark]

I would like to hear what the editors of this book, or really anyone at all, think of the copious handwritten "corrections" made to witness testimonies. In some places whole questions and answers were crossed out. In others there are material rewordings. For example a witness claimed the victims of gassing had their "lungs burst", but someone downgraded this to say that their "lung tissue could not withstand" the gas (p.351). Every page of the report on witness testimony has a bunch of these corrections. Wasn't this an overt rewriting of history?

It's a real "how the sausage is made" moment with the Soviet reports.

Investigators materially altering the accounts of "eyewitnesses."

If you believe it happened, you're a conspiracy-brained cultist. But it's literally written all over the reports.

The ChGK Draft Report on the deportation of US and British citizens to Treblinka also has numerous corrections. Footnotes indicate where the editors changed the reports, trying to construct a coherent narrative. Then the whole thing was just discarded, despite eight interrogation protocols "corroborating" the entire narrative.

The one thing missing from the Majdanek documents is actual interrogation protocols for each witness. I don't know if they exist or not.

The full Russian Majdanek book is online from "the usual suspects," but as a DJVU which can be converted into a PDF. It has more background info, but very few photos.

The 1st Belorussian Front seized Lublin on July 21, 1944, so the ChGK was doing its investigation less than a month later. The 1st Belorussian Front was also responsible for seizing the Treblinka area and beginning investigations in August, although the ChGK didn't do their Treblinka investigation until October.

[Fred Ziffel]

These Majdanek interrogations are a bit troubling
My question is based on some evidence, is how on earth did the Soviets catch these Germans so quickly that they were interrogating the evil doers in August 1944?
Things to first consider:
• The Majdanek staff got a communication from German High Command on March 25th 1944 to prepare to get the hell out of Dodge as can be seen on a B43 timeline display. They knew the jig was up. Regardless there were deliveries of Zyklon up till end of June or beginning of July.
• All gassings stopped in early Sept 1943 as per Majdanek website. That is 10+ months before the Soviets arrived on 22 July 1944. Everything about any homicidal gassings could have been covered up or done away with by then. Any incriminating paperwork could have been burned.

So, the German staff at Majdanek had ample prior knowledge they need to leave. The entire staff could have been in Auschwitz in 8 hours, even back in the 1940s. The Majdanek staff would not defend it since they were told to leave in 4 months prior. Yet the Soviets have these two standing before a table of 5 Soviet interrogators. What did these guys do? Run down the street and hide behind a tree and hope the Soviets do not see them? The German knew where the Soviet army was so it was no surprise

If my staff, the ones who were carrying out these evil deeds, were still there in March 1944, they would have been gone from the area soon after the order from the High Command and all those gas chambers would have been buried.
Anton, the older German officer, was hung on December 3, 1944. Not sure what happened to the other German. Eric Musfeld, the cremation officer, is more believable since he was not hung till January 1948 and was found in 1947 and tried. Did the Soviet try any German found in the area?

I shall also point out that if you look at the questioning area, one can see a can of Zyklon on the table, but no tank of CO gas. Why would that be? Both were found in B52 warehouse.

[Fred Ziffel]

In Germar Rudolf’s video called “Curated Lies” he discussed “Spoilage of Evidence”
See slide #11 in the video. Can see on Rumble or Bitchute.

Before 2005, the B41 room with a window was a claimed gas chamber for humans. At some time after July 22, 1944, till today, the entities that controlled the Majdanek Camp is said to have added a window 6ft off the floor. This is claim is used to explain away a breakable window in a homicidal gas chamber. The act of adding this window is the same as tampering with a crime scene if indeed the room was a homicidal gas chamber.

If this is the case, we then have another incident of “Spoilage of Evidence” albeit not a very smart move on part of the past museum. The gas chamber evidence spoilage that occurred at Crematoria 1 Auschwitz is very similar to the B41 alleged gas chamber at Majdanek evidence spoilage.

If that B41 room really was a gas chamber for humans, and they, the Polish museum staff, decided to add a window in this room after the war, then they shot themselves in the foot by doing something that severely weakens their own argument the room was a homicidal gas chamber and also created an incident of evidence spoilage.

Or

They are doing their best by making up a lie because they have no factual counter argument. Basically, they were desperate to come up with an excuse. You can see by the tourist that filed through this room, they will believe anything, even with the opposing evidence staring them in the face.

Other spoilage of evidence at Majdanek post July 22, 1944:
• Ceiling holes in B1 and B2 mentioned in Germar’s video
• Ceiling hole at new crematoria mentioned in Germar’s video
• Boarded up windows in B41 (2 locations) Zyklon can display room
• Enclosure between B41 and bunker made to look like it was there since the end of the war (rectified)
• Boarded up doorway at B42 in 2014, Coverup of Hunt’s process argument
• Gutting of B42 in large area so as it looks nothing like it did before in the 1940s
• Removing the 5 Carbon Monoxide tanks from the camp property
• The Soviets burning down the new crematoria (This is my speculation)

“Spoilage of Evidence” occurred on a larger scale at Majdanek than it did at Crematoria 1 Auschwitz.
For future posting, I will examine the construction gas chamber window (window frame etc.) and other similar windows on B41. I want to look at the construction method on the outside and compare to others on the same side of the building. I will be looking for differences in construction on exterior.

[Fred Ziffel]

This posting is based on an interesting thing mentioned earlier on this thread by Wetzelrad
I came up with a new slide to my Majdanek presentation and was wondering if Wetzelrad or anybody here of course interested in looking this over and seeing if there is room for improvement for this slide and get back to me with any suggestions
I am currently updating the Majdanek presentation.
See attached

on another note, I will be posting the Auschwitz Crem 1 building presentation and Majdanek presentation when finished to Odysee
I will post a link here when everything is finalized if anyone is interested in downloading my work.

[Wetzelrad]

That seems right to me. The one caveat about this is that the smarter narrative defenders stick with the theory that is the most physically believable which is that of carbon monoxide cannisters. I don't think either of the other theories are supported or adhered to by anyone really noteworthy. That one photo caption is an outlier.

[Fred Ziffel]

am not sure if I ever posted this
Recall the two tanks inside Cell or Room 14 Majdanek
This is another demonstration by some Germans? about the potential inside these tanks. note the weight of that tank too
Yes, tis a bigger tank
Link:

[pilgrimofdark]

A month ago, the Russian FSB declassified the SMERSH report and an interrogation protocol on Majdanek.

Majdanek Materials

The title is "First-Class Concentration Camp": Majdanek "Death Camp"

If they're similar to the Treblinka SMERSH reports, they'll echo the ChGK/ESC and Polish-Soviet investigatory reports.

The Majdanek ones are only a few pages each. Probably worth the effort to translate into English.

All of the declassified FSB archival materials are here.

[pilgrimofdark]

Probably worth the effort to translate into English.

I say this kind of stupid stuff, all but promising I'll make an attempt to AI-translate it, then it takes forever because one page has handwriting all over it and the typewriter used has a light "a" key.

I'm not sure there's a lot here to learn about Lublin/Majdanek. But from a Soviet investigation perspective, SMERSH interrogated Lithuanian guards for Majdanek and Ukrainians for Treblinka.

Some of the names of people/places are unclear. If anyone knows the corrections, that would be helpful. I already corrected a bunch of corruptions of German names translated from Cyrillic letters.

Interrogation protocol of the German army soldier Wolters. September 17, 1944.

Spoiler

МК-3

INTERROGATION PROTOCOL
prisoner of war Hans Wolters
from September 17, 1944.

WOLTERS Hans, born 1915, native of Thol (Pomerania), German, 9th grade secondary school education, member of the NSDAP from 1937 to 1941, from a family of engineer-director at the Siemens-Schuckert plant. Father died in 1927, mother WOLTERS Marie, born 1890, lived at the head, Bergstrasse 4. Single. Awarded: Austrian Medal, Czech Medal. Soldier (versus sergeant major).

I have been warned about liability for giving false testimony under Article 95 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR (signature).

QUESTION: You showed that in 1941 you left the NSDAP. Can you explain the reason for this?

ANSWER: I joined the party in Dachau, where I served in one of the SS commandant's offices as a clerk in the chancellery. My duty was accounting. There I joined the NSDAP, because otherwise I would have been dismissed. I was a member of the party until March 1941, when I left under the following circumstances: one day in a Dachau beer hall I was sitting with a group of 6-8 comrades, among them was the district party leader, SCHMIROK. He was sitting at another table and began to make comments to us. In short, things escalated to a fight, after which he ordered me to come to the party office. There we got heated again and I said that I was leaving the party and put my ID on his desk. Later I received a notice with an offer to return to the party, but I left this summons unanswered.

QUESTION: What do you know about the concentration camp in Dachau?

ANSWER: I worked there from 1937 to 1941. The camp is divided into two parts – the first was taken by the SS – the 1st Regiment "Upper Bavaria" Division "Deaths Head" numbering about 3,000 people. The second half contained mainly political prisoners. In 1937, the camp held 2,200. In 1940, there were already 19,000 people, partly increasing the number of arrested people due to the plantings of the countries occupied by the Germans. A brutal regime raged in the camp. Many prisoners were hung from oak trees by their hands, beaten with whips, beaten with a whip – 50 detainees), locked in a "blind" concrete cell – where they usually died. On average, 70 people died in the camp per day. Many were shot, I do not know the exact figures. The number of those executed at one time ranged from 10 to 200; the arrested SS sheep were subjected to torture—drills. They were forced to march for 12 hours without a moment's rest.

QUESTION: Who do you remember from the political prisoners of the camp?

ANSWER: I don't remember anyone.

QUESTION: Who do you know from the camp leadership?

ANSWER: The head of the camp was SS Major General LORITZ, in 1940 he was replaced by Major PIORKOVSKY. The head of the administration was Hauptsturmführer (captain) GAGNER, the head of the camp zone was Captain MLL and Captain GRONEBAUM.

QUESTION: What other concentration camps in Germany do you know?

ANSWER: Besides this camp, there are camps in Sachsenhausen, near Berlin, where there are about 20-30 thousand arrested people, in Neuengamme, near Hamburg, where about 15,000 people are held, and in Buchenwald near Weimar, where there are from 15,000 to 60,000 prisoners, this is the largest camp.
There are camps in the town of Ulossenberg in the province of Oberfalz, where there are up to 20,000 people, and in Auschwitz in the Katowice region (Poland) where up to 20,000 prisoners are held.
I know of approximately 15 such camps in Germany. There are also some I don't know about.

QUESTION: What do you know about the concentration camp in Lublin?

ANSWER: Among us, there's talk of the most brutal regime reigning there, specifically, of prisoners being gassed in "gas chambers" (...), shot en masse, and starved. This camp was called a "first-class concentration camp." Only foreigners were sent to that camp, and mass executions were carried out there.

QUESTION: Name the persons GUILTY of the atrocities in the Lublin camp?

ANSWER: I know of some of the camp's organizers: Sturmführer PECC, the camp's chief of staff, later arrived Oberreferee SHRAM KUNO, who worked in the camp's registration office and also maintained order; Oberreferee VORSTER HEINRICH, head of the camp's economic administration. He was also the prisoner food service supervisor; Oberraldwebel RITZ-RIIS, who worked in the registration office; a native of Mainz; Obersturmführer, HUMAN TONI, who arrived in Lublin from Dachau, where he became known as a beast; Standarten Jürger KOCH, the former camp commander in Buchenwald; Sturmführer DOMINIK, the latter was in charge of the production department at the camp. It's interesting to note that in 1943, it became known that a number of the camp's organizers had built up their houses. It was said that the reason was the discovery of a massive theft by these individuals—valuables and things concentrated in the camp. In 1942, (...) there was a secret trial of those responsible for the theft. The defendants, according to rumors, were given the opportunity to shoot themselves.

QUESTION: When and why did you stop working at Dachau?

ANSWER: I stopped working there in January 1941 and was transferred to the same position at the Oranienburg camp. This city housed the Inspectorate of all concentration camps, headed by SS Major General Glix Renard, based in Düsseldorf. In April 1942, I was 48 hours late returning from vacation, resulting in three weeks of administrative arrest. After that, I was sent to work at the Penz factories in the Potsdam area. I worked there for 10 months and was then conscripted into the army. My ASOS rank of Oberscharführer was not honored, and I became a private.

QUESTION: What was your last place of service?

ANSWER: Before being captured, I served in the 103rd assault company of the SS Nordland brigade, stationed near Narva.

QUESTION: When and under what circumstances were you taken prisoner?

ANSWER: I was captured on July 29, 1944, near the Narva River during a Russian attack, around noon. Our company was practically nonexistent. All equipment and most of the personnel had been destroyed by bombing and artillery. There were about 50 wounded in the company. To save them and themselves, the soldiers decided to raise the white flag, which they did.

The protocol was written down from my words, accurately, and read to me in German. (signature)

INTERROGATED BY: STAFF OPERATOR OF THE 2ND DEPT. OF THE COUNTERINTELLIGENCE DEPARTMENT "SMERSH" OF THE LO. Senior Lieutenant:
(ALSHCHITS)
CORRECT: /signature/

On the arrest of the participants of the brutal extermination of the population of the Lublin "Death Camp" Kupstas and Merkevichas. November 1944.

Spoiler

TOP SECRET

TO THE CHIEF OF THE "SMERSH" COUNTERINTELLIGENCE DEPARTMENT OF THE 3RD BELARUSIAN FRONT – LIEUTENANT GENERAL

TO COMRADE ZELENIN.

SPECIAL MESSAGE

On the arrest of the participants in the brutal extermination of the population in the Lublin “Death Camp” – KUPSTAS J.I. and MERKEVICHAS V.K.

The SMERSH counterintelligence department of the 15th Air Base District, as a result of undercover operations, detained on November 14, 1944, and arrested on November 17 of this year the participants in the brutal extermination of the population in the Lublin Death Camp:

1. KUPSTAS Jaronim Iosifovich, born in 1918, native of the village of Sternishki, Pilvish volost, Volkovish district, Lithuanian SSR, Lithuanian, from peasants, 2nd grade education, non-party member.
2. MERKEVICHAS Vladimir Kazimirovich, born in 1918, native of the Porrendu church, Gizhun volost, Lithuanian SSR, Lithuanian, from peasants, 4th grade circumcision, non-party member, driver-mechanic by profession.

The preliminary investigation of the case established that KUPSTAS J.I. and MERKEVICHAS V.K., having served in the Red Army in June 1941, after the end of military operations against the Soviet Union and Germany, voluntarily went over to the enemy side and joined the counter-revolutionary Lithuanian army under the name of "the Lithuanian state".

In the autumn of 1941, KUPSTAS and MERKEVICHAS, while serving in the above-mentioned army, were sent by the German command to the city of Lublin, where they were enlisted in the battalion of the SS troops at the Dublin Death Camp.

While serving in the said battalion, KUPSTAS and MERKEVICHAS took direct part in the brutal extermination of the population held in the Lublin Death Camp.

The arrested KUPSTAS J.I., speaking about his service in the German SS troops at the Lublin Death Camp, confessed during interrogation:

I served only one year as a private in the SS battalion at the Lublin Death Camp. Our battalion was tasked with guarding the camp and bringing its inmates to work.
The "Death Camp" was located one and a half kilometers from Lublin. The camp grounds contained over 20 large barracks. It should be noted that the camp was constantly expanding.
The Death Camp held people of various nationalities, brought by the Germans from the countries they occupied during various wars.

In his account of the system of mass extermination of the population in the Lublin Death Camp, arrested KUPSTAS J.I. stated:

Up to 300 people were admitted to the Death Camp daily, where they were subjected to extermination using various methods and techniques. An unbearable regime was created for those held in the camp, and those who survived this unbearable regime were subsequently burned in specially adapted ovens.

Continuing his testimony, the arrested KUPSTAS J.I. said:

While serving in the SS battalion at the Lublin Death Camp, I took direct part in the brutal extermination of the population held in that camp. Together with other soldiers from our battalion, I repeatedly conscripted groups of Jews held in the camp we guarded into work. I personally beat the Jews who were physically weak and unable to work with the butt of the rifle I had.
In August 1942, under the leadership of lieutenant RACHKUS, I, along with eleven soldiers from our battalion, took direct part in the execution of 90 Jews.
In the month of May 1942, a large group of Jews from the camp were forced to work digging a pit. While working, four Jews, attempting to escape from the death camp, hid under a barracks. However, they were discovered by the Germans and subjected to a brutal beating. Three other soldiers from our battalion and I then executed them. Two weeks later, on the orders of a German officer, I, along with other soldiers from the SS battalion, executed eight Jews for refusing to work.

Arrested person MERKEVICHAS V.K., speaking about his service in the Lublin Death Camp, testified during interrogation on November 14:

Soon after our arrival at the Lublin camp, the company commander, Captain Kazakevich, explained to us that we had been brought here to perform the "honorable" duty of guarding the concentration camp and immediately read out instructions on the subject. These instructions stated that every soldier must perform his guard duty well, preventing any escape by prisoners held within. The instructions included a stern warning to keep everything we would see in the camp, especially the process of exterminating prisoners, under the strictest secrecy.

Continuing his testimony, the arrested MERKEVICHAS about his participation in the atrocities committed in the Lublin Death Camp, he said:

While serving in the Lublin Death Camp, I repeatedly took part in accompanying prisoners held in the camp, doing various types of work, and I also systematically escorted newly arrived persons from the station to the Death Camp location.
I have repeatedly had to guard the furnace in which the bodies of tortured and executed citizens were burned.

The investigation into the case of KUPSTAS J. I. and MERKEVICHAS V. K. is being conducted in the direction of fully exposing their criminal activities in participating in the atrocities committed by the Nazi invaders, and at the same time, measures are being taken to identify and arrest the accomplices of KUPSTAS and MERKEVICHAS.

[Stubble]

PoD, you ain't gotta be Atlas. Give some of us a shot at translating it. It ain't gotta happen tomorrow neither.

Over time, it will get done.

I'll chew on it here and there.