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ResearcherGuy wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 5:48 am All great points, thanks a lot for the help. I've also hear an additional argument that the tracked number of Jews in the report (1,274,166, confirmed by Höfle Telegram), never showed up anywhere else, which may construe their demise. Furthermore, that because the report is dated to early 1943 or later 1942, such transportation of Jews to the Russian East was not actually possible as the Russians were pushing back. This would make the reports claim of such transportation dubious.
The Germans still held vast areas in Eastern Europe in 1942, 1943 and even 1944 to make it a good dumping ground for unwanted Jews during most of WW2. Europeans never had the huge areas Americans had (and still have). They always managed to do much with little (best use of relatively small areas, poor resources management, ersatz products, etc.). The English way of conquering gigantic areas all over the world in order to get more resources was not the European way of doing things for most of European history.

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Callafangers wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 4:02 am Perhaps Himmler's concern was also that a term like "special treatment" could be confused for killing, hence why he recommended it be changed to properly account for these Jews being documented.
The least any responsible leader could do when he was being accused of turning Jews into soap and the likes by the founder of American Zionism himself.

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Callafangers wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 4:02 am Only with Holocaust goggles 🤓 do we (through our own Hollywood-fueled biases) jump immediately to thinking (or accepting) every vague term or phrase is a Nazi cover-up for 'gassing'... because we all know just how evil those Nazis were. Didn't you see Schindler's List, after all?
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ResearcherGuy wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 5:48 am …I've also heard an additional argument that the tracked number of Jews in the report (1,274,166, confirmed by Höfle Telegram), never showed up anywhere else, which may construe their demise.
You might be interested to know that the REALITY regarding the Höfle telegram is that it is almost certainly bogus.

It is claimed to supposedly be the ONLY deciphered message that was ever intercepted concerning the alleged programme to mass-murder all of the 11 million jewish people in ALL of Europe and mentioned in the Wannsee protocol.

We are asked to believe that the Third Reich high-command and their ‘Endlösung’ operatives NEVER sent any other unequivocal messages — neither by paper nor by coded messages — about such a huge operation! NOTHING! Not one other message or order supposedly could be found in all the many tons of captured documents and hundreds-of-thousands of secret-code messages that were intercepted.

You would have to have a self-delusional ‘belief’ in the Holocaust mass-gassing ‘Jew genocide’ narrative to think that makes sense.

Raul Hilberg is the only HolyH, mass-gassing believer who had the honesty to admit that absence doesn’t make sense. And to to explain the absence of written orders he invented the explanation that the whole policy and all the necessary logistical issues were sorted using telepathic ‘mind-reading’. *

* “But what began in 1941 was a process of destruction not planned in advance, not organized centrally by any agency. There was no blueprint and there was no budget for destructive measures. They [these measures] were taken step by step, one step at a time.
Thus came about not so much a plan being carried out, but an incredible meeting of minds, a consensus — mind-reading by a far-flung bureaucracy.”
~ Raul Hilberg


Even the Höfle telegram itself — if it is genuine — is not unequivocally referring to the supposed programme to mass-murder 11 million Jews. It needs ‘interpreting’.
Both i.) the numbers have to be adjusted to fit,
AND ii.) what the initials supposedly represent have to be interpreted RETROACTIVELY to fit the belief-system.
That has been gone into here: https://rodoh.info/post/3473

Another anomaly pointing to this being a forgery is that Höfle’s name is spelt not as it would have been in a German transmission using German alphabet on a German typewriter but is spelt without an umlaut. I.e. it is spelt as Anglicised ‘Hoefle’.

To decrypt the intercepts required an Enigma machine AND a German typewriter with keys for the German letters ö ü ä.
You will see that these letters of the German alphabet are used elsewhere by the decrypting team.
So presumably the forgers did not know that Höfle was how his name was spelt, not the Anglicised ”Hoefle”.

The files were archived, kept secret and not “declassified” and made available to researchers/historians until the late 1990s. Most documents held by the PRO used to be kept "closed" (or secret) for 50 years after being archived there. That changed to 30 years after 1967. So as usual, this imbecile doesn’t know what he is talking about.

OBVIOUSLY, it isn’t being suggested that “a typist back in January 1943 faked the message”.
IF the filed Höfle message IS a forgery, it would have been created and inserted shortly before or after the files were declassified and made accessible to the public in the late 1990s.

It is claimed to have been an extremely lucky find made in the year 2000.
And the motivation for the forgery — IF this is what occurred — would appear to have been in order to support the increasingly beleaguered and collapsing HolyH mass-gassing mythology.

Further implication that it is a convincing forgery seems to me to be the slim likelihood of it just being randomly discovered out of all the several hundreds of thousands of decrypted intercepts, so soon after they were declassified. A reasonable, rational person would be aware that the ’discovery’ was either extremely ’lucky’ and/or very unlikely.

As I understand it, the ones who made public the ‘discovery’ of it are Peter Witte and Stephen Tyas. Presumably one of them ‘found’ it.
But in their publication they don’t mention who found it, nor how (whichever of them supposedly did) just happened upon this particular intercept amongst the many, many thousands.
This fact alone should make any reasonable person suspicious.
There are 101 archives of files, and each one contains several thousands of decrypted intercepts.

So who found it and how did they come across it? And how did they understand the significance of it?

But nobody dare question things like this. Most everybody in the world knows nothing about this kind of detail, and so just gullibly and obediently ’believe’ what they are told to believe.

As we all know, for a historian to publically question in this way would be career-suicide. The only academics and publishing historians who question any of this HolyH-narrative have been ostracised and smeared.
Look what happened to Prof Nolte, Prof. Faurisson, Prof Hayward, Henri Roques, Germar Rudolf and David Irving for proof of that.

SUMMARY:
So the Höfle telegram is yet another good example of just how weak the actual ‘evidence’ is for this ‘belief-system’. It’s up there alongside us being expected to believe that the whole operation was planned and executed using ‘euphemisms’, yet simultaneously we are expected to believe that Hitler OPENLY wrote about his ‘genocide’ plan in ‘Mein kampf’ and even declared it to the world in recorded public broadcasts.
Yeah, sure. That makes complete sense... not!

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Stubble wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 7:08 am https://codoh.com/library/document/rich ... s-reports/

Like Challen, I have doubts about Korherr's root aggregate...
I've seen that video years ago, have it archived. They were clearly given a script to read off of. No gas freezes you and turns you blue, Willy Wonky would be proud.

I've heard it argued that all the other Jews were accounted for, except these 1.27 million. The Nazis were meticious record keepers, but no traces of these 1.27 million are found.
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Must have been a different video Guy. Check the one I linked and try it on for size.

Regarding missing persons, missing persons are missing, not dead. Dead people are dead and not necessarily murdered. Murder is a serious charge that requires evidence.

To date I have not seen this evidence.

In testimony you see that many camps were abandoned. The people in those camps may or may not have chosen to stay to liberation. Regardless, these people would not have a thorough accounting in the written record as there was no one left to record.

When you look at the refugee files, you see that jews from the east overran cities like Vienna causing unrest on their way out of Europe. Were all of these jews counted? Has there ever been a thorough audit of this post war diaspora? To my knowledge, no.

The fable I was told in school was that these missing people were murdered, placed in discrete holes in known places, dug up, cremated on open pyres and then used to pave roads. This is a pure fiction.

Over time the myth has evolved and is ever changing as to keep me chasing my tail playing whack a mole with excuses for the lack of evidence for the claims.

Ultimately, I can't tell you where these people are. I can however show you where they are not. They are not where we have been told they were.
If I were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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Stubble wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 7:03 pm Must have been a different video Guy. Check the one I linked and try it on for size.

Regarding missing persons, missing persons are missing, not dead. Dead people are dead and not necessarily murdered. Murder is a serious charge that requires evidence.
No as I said I've seen that video, and I even referenced the nonsense of people turning blue which is referenced in that video. Try reading carefully.

Yes they are missing, this is not proof of death. But when they aren't accounted for in any records as any one else is, it is suspect.

I'm debating someone, and they made this argument :
The Nature of Treblinka as a "Station"
This is where the "transportation" vs. "extermination" debate hits a physical reality. If Treblinka were a transit camp for 713,000+ people:

The Infrastructure: It lacked the barracks, kitchens, or sanitation facilities to house even a fraction of that number for a single night.

The "Forward" Rail: There was no rail line leading out of the camp toward the East that could handle the volume of people arriving. The trains arrived, were emptied, and the same cars were recorded returning empty to the main line.

The SS Inventory: As mentioned earlier, we have the "positive" record of what left the camp: thousands of freight cars filled with sorted clothing, shoes, and personal effects of the people who had just arrived.
I don't how much of that is true. Just saying there is no direct proof of murder doesn't settle the matter though, despite that being true. They got to these camps, then vanished without a trace. You have to consider the likelyhood of extermination, versus mysterious dissapearance.
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Ah, that is my bad. I don't actually consider that central to the thesis and had forgotten it was in there. Upon review, you are correct Sir. Apologies.

For the record, this wasn't because I don't read, it was because I had linked it for the testimony of those transited through these pure extermination centers.

Regarding the missing, it's a head scratcher for sure. Kind of like trying to account for all of the aircraft rivets Focke Wulf sent all over the Reich at the close of the war. Some are, unsurprisingly, unaccounted for. That doesn't mean they were buried in a field, melted down, and used to make Panzerfaust.

It should be infinitely easier for The Orthodoxy to show me where someone was murdered and cremated than for me to show you an 80 year old footprint.

Until proven otherwise, I conjecture that jews went, where jews are.
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Stubble wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 7:31 pm Regarding the missing, it's a head scratcher for sure. Kind of like trying to account for all of the aircraft rivets Focke Wulf sent all over the Reich at the close of the war. Some are, unsurprisingly, unaccounted for. That doesn't mean they were buried in a field, melted down, and used to make Panzerfaust.

It should be infinitely easier for The Orthodoxy to show me where someone was murdered and cremated than for me to show you an 80 year old footprint.

Until proven otherwise, I conjecture that jews went, where jews are.
Again the Nazis were meticilous record keepers. If these camps were transit camps then there would most likely be a record of such transit. We would except records of wherever they were moved to.

Koherr did the following with the 1.27 million figure :

  • 1. He subtracted them from the General Government.

    2. He did not add them to the totals for the East.

    3. He categorized the entire group under "The Diminishment of Jewry."

It's not proof of murder, but the case for them up and disappearing without a record seems less likely.
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Again, they are not where I was told they were, they are some place else.

I don't think you and I simply restating this is going to be productive.

I again warn about relying on this single report as proof of anything as I question the root aggregate.

Could this cohort represent a group of people who were murdered? I suppose. That would have to be illustrated with evidence however which has not been forthcoming.

Regarding not counting these jews with jews 'in the wild' in the east, these jews were still under the control of the German Authorities and were pacified, thus, they were not 'wild jews' in the east that still needed to be pacified in one way or another.

There is evidence of a diaspora from Europe post war, records are incredibly sloppy during this period, missing persons are not dead and even dead people are not necessarily murdered.

I stress again that I can not show you where this cohort of missing jews went. I further stress that neither can The Orthodoxy.

I will ask you again, what is easier to find after 80 years? A hole in the ground that was filled with the dead who were dug up and cremated? Or a footprint in the sand from 80 years ago?

To be very clear, I am looking for these missing persons, all of them. One thing that would help would be if The Orthodoxy could tell me who is missing, instead of pointing to a chart and saying 'it's this many'...
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Stubble wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2026 7:59 pm Again, they are not where I was told they were, they are some place else.

I don't think you and I simply restating this is going to be productive.

I again warn about relying on this single report as proof of anything as I question the root aggregate.
"Again, they are not where I was told they were, they are some place else."

This is not an argument of any kind. And your statement about restating is quite ironic.

The Koherr Report is corroborated by the Holfe Telegram, so much for single report. It was found among the files of the Reich Security Main Office (RSHA) and the Personal Staff of the Reichsführer-SS (Himmler), it has multiple versions and cross references, its not some loose random report.

Evidence of a diaspora doesn't account for the 1.27 million not only being unreported for any transport, but being subtracted by Koherr. We have no record of them being transported elsewhere. Records were sloppy, except the very detailed Koherr report and Holfe Telegram...
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We do have records of portions of this cohort being moved from the Bug River camps, and video testimony as well, as outlined in the video linked in my first post in this thread.

That the population of Seattle was not buried at Treblinka II, dug up, and cremated on BBQ Grilles is demonstrable, and thus, these 925,000 jews were not murdered there, obviously. That's evidence that they were not murdered there, especially when taken with the video testimony of the people transited through.

Your non addressing of the fact that this cohort was not counted with the 'wild' cohort in the east is telling .you simply drone on that since they are in a different group in the report, they were murdered. Read Korherr's Der Speigel letter, he is very clear that he meant they had been resettled, not murdered. I linked the letter from the issue of Der Speigel in my original post in this thread, and I don't know how this could be more clear.

If I have 2 pieces of paper that both say that the population of Seattle went to a place over the course of a year that doesn't mean they were murdered there. It just means that they went. If I have 2 pieces of paper that both say 2+2=5, that doesn't make it a factually correct statement.

Was the Hoffle Telegram based off of the Korherr Report? Or was the Korherr Report based off of the Hoffle Telegram? Gee, I suppose we could, check the date...

You seem to have issue with the answer that jews went where jews are. I have issue with 'they were murdered here' without evidence to support the claim. What evidence there is refutes the claim as the dead wouldn't fit in the space as a liquid.

Just to add, in the letter Korherr also says he did not create this report, he merely was sent this report and told not to change one jot nor one tittle.
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Der SPIEGEL veröffentlicht leider die Behauptung des englischen Historikers Irving, ich hätte im Frühjahr 1943 auf Himmlers Order die Zahl der Opfer des Judentums berechnet. Tatsächlich wurden diese Angaben vom Reichssicherheitshauptamt (RSHA) fix und fertig samt Text mir geliefert mit der Auflage, keine Zahl und kein Wort ändern zu dürfen.
SPIEGEL unfortunately publishes the claim of the English historian Irving that I calculated the number of victims of Judaism on Himmler's order in the spring of 1943. In fact, this information was delivered to me by the Reich Security Main Office (RSHA), complete and complete, along with the text, with the stipulation that no number or word could be changed.
Not unlike Zabecki not being a Stationmaster, and not taking the famous photo of the Treblinka Uprising, Korherr did not generate this report...
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