Comments on other threads.

[Keen]

Nessie, you fucking idiot, that isn't tangible, physical evidence.

It's not just a fucking idiot, it's a mentally ill pathological liar.

[Keen]

A more honest answer is that you do not believe the evidence found at the camp sites, supports the witness, documentary and circumstantial evidence that hundreds of thousands of corpses were buried and then cremated.

Notice how the mentall ill pathological liar always leaves out the "and then reburied in the same "huge mass graves" and covered over with a thick layer of soil" part of the big-lie.

It's as stupid as its "physical quantification would be impossible" lie, which is simply the reality deniers new lie to cover for their old "utterly erradicated" (ie. - "magically disappeared") big-lie.

They have nothing.

21 fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves" fraudulently alleging that they contian the remails of up to one million jews, and they cannot prove that even one of the 21 "huge mass graves" contains so-much-as 8 pounds of bone fragments / teeth or two complete skeletons.

The mentally ill pathological liar also continually alleges that over 800,000 jews were "cremated" when in fact, the orthodox big-lie is that they were "roasted" on "roasters" without fuel - only kindling and a unique body stacking method.

This is how the "roasters" worked with a lot of fuel:



Now imagine how well the "roasting" would go if virtually no fuel was used?

By examining each “proven mass grave” allegation separately, an intelligent person can easily see just how utterly vacuous and criminally fraudulent this transparent archaeological hoax really is.

[Keen]

The post Soviet era archaeological excavations at Sobibor found multiple areas that contained buried, cremated, decomposed remains, mostly amongst the trees, which fits with descriptions of remains being planted over. The same was found at Belzec. TII is different because of the memorial.

The only "huge mass grave" allegedly "discovered" by the excavations of the memorial area prior to building the memorial was this:



And Krege's investigation of the memorial area "found no graves and no ash".

[TlsMS93]

When trying to prove their points, they use indirect and vague arguments and attempt to push the argument of convergence of evidence onto all of this.

Yes, the whole "corroboration" lie is nothing but a rewrite of the "convergence of evidence" BS.

Despite fraudulently alleging that there is well over 6 million pounds of this at TII:




while at the same time laughably alleging that "Physical quantification would be impossible," the mentally ill pathological liars cannot point to one single "huge mass grave" at Treblinka II that has been proven to contain so-much-as 8 pounds of burnt bones. (The approximate weight of 2 people.)

That's why they cravenly run away from this simple challenge to accept their burden of proof:

Additionally, and independent of any other Holocaust Archaeology Hoax Challenge, a - $100.00 reward - is being offered for each one of the 100 alleged “scientifically proven” mass graves / cremation pits in question that is proven - with the same standard of proof applied in U. S. civil courts - to actually exist and to currently contain the remains of - at least 2 people. (That is less than one tenth of one one thousandth of one percent of the alleged mass murder.)

Note: The 6 original fraudulently alleged “huge mass graves” of Treblinka II that were alleged by “authoritative eyewitnesses” and allegedly - “PROVEN” - to exist in the early show trials - MODEL - MAP - (but never proven to exist), are also included in the above reward offer. (A photo of one of these 6 fraudulently alleged “huge mass graves” can be seen - HERE.)

https://thisisaboutscience.com/

8 pounds of bone fragments would easily quantify and meet the "two people" standard that Mr. Gerdes is looking for.

And let's not forget that the orthodox story alleges that there are tens of thousands of bodies that were never dug up and burnt, and their complete skeletons lie at the bottom of these fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves" covered by hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of pounds of bone fragments and millions of teeth.

But they continue to lie about physical remains being proven to exist within the boundary of T II.

Those who study the narrative of the Reinhardt camps are led to believe that there is a huge mass grave, larger than a football field and as deep as Olympic swimming pools, filled with the ashes of nearly millions of people.

But when we demand this confirmation, they come up with this thing called LIDAR, ground penetration equipment, limiting things allegedly so as not to offend the feelings of the Jewish community. So keep these things to yourselves, don't try to force them down the throats of the Gentiles.

[Nessie]

...

Those who study the narrative of the Reinhardt camps are led to believe that there is a huge mass grave, larger than a football field and as deep as Olympic swimming pools, filled with the ashes of nearly millions of people.

From the witness and geophysical evidence, there are around 11 mass graves spread around the gas chambers.

But when we demand this confirmation, they come up with this thing called LIDAR, ground penetration equipment, limiting things allegedly so as not to offend the feelings of the Jewish community. So keep these things to yourselves, don't try to force them down the throats of the Gentiles.

The site was originally excavated, in 1945. There is no religion that accepts the disturbing of human remains without good reason. That has not stopped further excavations taking place at the AR camps, but in each case, once human remains, mostly in the form of cremains are found, the excavations stop, so as not to disturb the dead.

The so-called revisionists just chose to deny all the evidence of mass graves and pretend there is nothing of note, in defiance of the physical, witness and circumstantial evidence.

[Nessie]

Nessie claims to base his opinions on "evidencing" even as he ignores inconvenient data. For example, he believes there were over 100 bodies buried per square meter of disturbed ground at Belzec yet real world mass graves are less than a tenth of that. Usually way less.

viewtopic.php?t=189

The link is to a thread I am prevented from posting in, that does not have me claiming over 100 bodies per square meter are buried at Belzec. Where is your evidence that I believe that is the case? Or will you apologise and admit you have lied?

As for inconvenient data, the data you produce is estimated and biased to worst case scenario, whereby you try to minimise how many corpses can fit into a space. What you ignore is that naked corpses, many of which were children and women, were dumped into graves, with evidence a corrosive substance was added to speed up decomposition. As more corpses are piled on top of others, the pressure will compress them. Excavations have found waxy fat masses, which will be congealed remains with no gaps between them. Liquids will leach out, further reducing the volume and there is evidence the Nazis were concerned about how that would contaminate the groundwater. You ignore that inconvenient to you evidence.

As for how many corpses were buried, there is uncertainty and when the death toll of say TII is put at c800,000, that does not mean 800,000 corpses were buried. There is evidence cremations began before the transports ended, so a number will not have been buried.

Like you, I find it incredible and hard to believe, that so many people were buried and cremated. The difference between us is that I put my incredulity aside and I follow the evidence of what happened. For c800,000 not to be buried at TII, needs evidence hundreds of thousands left the camp, of which there is none. There are no documents, no eyewitnesses, there is nothing. Therefore, the evidence of mass murder and graves stands, and my belief in possibilities is moot. You do not have that evidence based approach, preferring instead to rely on your opinion about what is possible.

[Nessie]

viewtopic.php?p=24435#p24435

Just out of curiouity, does anyone besides Bombsaway and possibly Hans believe previously buried then dug-up corpses from a mass grave, can be destroyed by a single flame thrower (or even multiple flamethrowers)?
That is, does anyone here genuinely believe a flamethrower can ‘cremate’ bodies? Or “destroy” them?
Or would it just charr them / carbonise them?

It would char and carbonise.

Anybody?
Any HolyH believers, please feel free to answer.

Here’s my answer:
NO! IT CAN DEFINITELY NOT !
Obviously, a flamethrower cannot cremate ANY bodies, whether from a mass grave or not. It would severely char, carbonise, and partially burn them, sure.
But NO it definitely could not reduce them to ash or fully destroy them.

So, …however many holyH confessions say it was done, they are OBVIOUSLY FALSE confessions.

The issue here is one of interpretation. If a witness is describing the Nazis covering up their crimes, by trying to hide and destroy evidence of how many people they had killed, by cremating the corpses, then I would interpret them to mean destroying evidence, rather than physically destroying the corpse. The witness would be thinking of not just the physical act, but also the plan. Anyone with basic forensic awareness knows how hard it is to destroy a corpse, as it will always leave traces. Someone who is watching attempts to destroy evidence, is not just recollecting the physical destruction.