He said we have to carry 50 kilogram cement off our shoulder, and to go 24 steps to the mixing machine. And I said to myself, 50 kilogram is 100 pound, and I'm 15 years old. How will I will be able? And I said if you cannot carry it? He said no problem. You have two choices. If for any reason you fall on your knees that you cannot go up with the 50 kilogram cement, they get the order I'll throw you in the mixing machine alive or carry you down and to put you one of each other.
I said, Joshua, you cannot afford this luxury thing. But you will have to do it. And the first day I couldn't go up on my feet. I went on my knees, but I carried the 50 kilogram cement. And who couldn't carry the 50 kilogram cement-- listen carefully. This was two way. Or they gave to order what I got this order not once. Put them on, throw them alive in the mixing machine. Or the order was to carry them down and to put them one of each other. And all of them, they were alive.
And then I made a picture. Joshua, you cannot be carried down here because all the people in the evening when you got the order to put them on the trucks to deliver them in the crematorium, they were all alive. They were asking for help. I decided if I for any reason will be not able to go up with 50 kilogram cement, I will not wait for the verdict carry him down. I will drop myself in the mixing machine.
And I was happier to put people in the mixing machine because I know one day I will jump after them. Because in the mixing machine you suffer 30 seconds. But down they could suffer one or two day alive without help. No kaiser, no citro cyanide.
And one more. Later I could carry two sacks cement. 100 pound.
INT: And so did you put--
JK: Hm?
INT: Did you put them in the mixing machine? Did you put them in the mixing machine?
JK: The mixing machine? I-- well, I saw it the whole day, 10, 12 hours. I saw it. I throw in people with these two hand. I picked them up. They couldn't go up. They dropped from any reason. I picked-- I picked them up with the happiness, because I will-- I know that I will follow them one day. To prepare yourself is easier that you get surprised. I know that I never wanted to carry down. And when I put them in, I know they will suffer five second, 10 second, and that's it. But this was the order.
INT: What was the machine precisely?
JK: They were building an underground runway. You need a massage?
CREW: No, no, no.
JK: [LAUGHS]
INT: Tell me--
JK: Don't get scared for my story. This not a story.
INT: Tell me, what was the mixing machine.
JK: The mixing machine-- we were building an underground runway for the Messerschmitt what they manufactured. Every-- they still exist. I was there with my children. Not the whole. This still exist. Tens of thousand of people died there, and tens of thousand people worked there. And I was one of them.
The camp was-- one was Mühldorf, where I slept, where I worked. In the other side of the runway airport was Waldlager. But tens of thousand people, 24 hours a day, worked there. This exist until today.
INT: So the mixing machine did what?
JK: A mixing machine. Did you ever see a mixing machine? Go to La Brea here Los Angeles. Go ask the owner. I want to see how the mixing machine. You will see. You put in cement. Water is coming automatically. And trucks are coming, and they filled up, and they take this to building. This wasn't building for killing prisoner. This was built to manufacture mixing cement.
INT: So I need to be clear. Inmates who were going to die, or had already died, were thrown into the mixing machine.
JK: Or you die or-- or you alive. No middle section. And people were in the mixing machine. They-- they got in pieces. You couldn't find them in building. The-- the mixing machine goes to the-- to the-- where they run the ready-made cement.
Did you ever see a mixing machine? If no, go to look. They will show you. If no, go to the trucks what deliver mixing cement, and you will see how they make the roof or everything. Mixing machine. It's a very simple procedure.
INT: And were the SS involved in that process of--
JK: No. This was management, kapos. I saw a soldier. But who looked around? You don't have time to look around. You did your job. You became a robot.
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And to go to all these places where I was sleeping, where I was working. When I looked up I didn't remember which place, which mixing machine I throw in people. And many mixing machine. This-- there-- this, this runway was kilometers long. It's not 100 feet. And they bombarded it after the World War II. But they couldn't demolish the whole thing. And my children ask me [where this happened]. I said I don't remember. For me Mühldorf is Mühldorf. This mixing machine, this machine. I don't remember.
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