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[Nessie]

No.

Please tell me, for the resettlement programme you claim millions of Jews participated in, so that they were alive in 1945, the;

1 - name and located of the department responsible.
2 - the names of senior Nazis who ran the programme.
3 - the name of the operation
4 - the locations of the main Jewish populations in 1945, along with population details.

[HansHill]

After Dr. Terry's most recent [final?] spanking on the matter

Can i get a link to this? Was it a forum post or a HC blog post?

[Keen]

The evidence is there, despite the best attempts of the Nazis to destroy it

nessie:

I cannot physically show you mass graves.

Geophysics scientifically and conclusively proves that there are pits and that they exist.

But it does not prove that those pits contain human remains.

[Keen]

Please tell me, for the resettlement programme you claim millions of Jews participated in, so that they were alive in 1945

Logical fallacy.

[Keen]

There is not a ton of evidence to support your hypothesis that powerful groups faked the murder of millions of people.

Also nessie:

There is a ton of physical, archaeological, witness, documentary and circumstantial evidence for mass killings and burials at TII.

[Callafangers]

After Dr. Terry's most recent [final?] spanking on the matter

Can i get a link to this? Was it a forum post or a HC blog post?

I shouldn't have said "most recent" as I am not sure if he has been here since then. I was referring to this thread:

Why does SanityCheck evade the Physical Evidence Question?
https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=716

Already by page ~7, it was clear Dr. Terry was unable to resolve (or even directly address) the key questions of physical evidence, despite his years in 'anti-revisionism':

https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=716&start=90

He continued the same pattern through later pages, eventually positing that Jews must have been buried by the railroads at various stops along the way (since, as he now seems to accept implicitly, there is simply no way the claimed number of corpses are actually underneath AR camps), discussed here:

https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=22153#p22153

Admittedly, I got to a point in this thread of using AI rather heavily to summarize/outline Terry/SC's arguments (walls-of-text) at each turn rather than quote-replying in full, as the goal was to expose his arguments and not be overwhelmed with textual bombardment. They takeaway is that he has no rational way to explain the physical evidence discrepancies on-site at AR camps (or Birkenau), so is pivoting to claims that many Jews never made it to the camps to begin with (ironically, a big point for revisionism).

[Stubble]

The 'Oregon Trail Thesis' yes. Unfortunately, he seems to have dipped out of the forum. I hope he comes back.

[Keen]

I hope he comes back.

I think he got tired of having his nose rubbed in his lies.

[Keen]

Dr. Terry was unable to resolve (or even directly address) the key questions of physical evidence

That's why he tucked tail and ran away from debate:

viewtopic.php?p=24078#p24078

His cowardice is legendary.

[Nessie]

... They takeaway is that he has no rational way to explain the physical evidence discrepancies on-site at AR camps (or Birkenau), so is pivoting to claims that many Jews never made it to the camps to begin with (ironically, a big point for revisionism).

The rational explanation, for the so-called discrepancies, is that the Nazis did a very good job of exhumation, cremation and mixing the burnt remains and ashes into the ground, leaving no obvious signs of the original mass graves. The haphazard finds of buried remains, and disturbed ground that when excavated by archaeologists found little in the way of remains, shows that the Nazis did not just dump the cremains back into the original graves at the AR camps. Chelmno is different, as it has more clearly defined rectangular disturbed ground, that has the cremains. That buried remains have been found in the wooded area at Sobibor, suggests that the wooden areas at TII, is also likely to cover over where the cremains were dumped. Part of the cover-up, according to witnesses, was to plant over where cremains were buried.

Other discrepancies, such as how many graves there were and their location, based on witness recollection and the maps some drew, are easily explained by memory issues.

The so-called revisionists express their disbelief at the possibility, so many were buried at each camp and then make calculations designed to support their disbelief, and present that as solid, substantial evidence. It is not. There are many unknowns, such as how many died on route and if their remains were removed from the trains. What is certain, from the evidence, is that hundreds of thousands of Jews met their end inside those camps.

[Keen]

The haphazard finds of buried remains, and disturbed ground that when excavated by archaeologists
found little in the way of remains.

There's poor nessie, having to resort to the "magically disappearing jew / 'huge mass grave'" theory again.

But wait, there's more.

In the very same thread that the retard posted the above nonsense, it posted this as well:

What is certain, from the evidence, is that hundreds of thousands of Jews met their end inside those camps.

[Keen]

... leaving no obvious signs of the original mass graves. The haphazard finds of buried remains, and disturbed ground that when excavated by archaeologists found little in the way of remains

Also nessie:

There is a ton of physical and archaeological evidence for mass burials at TII.

The evidence is there despite the best attempts of the Nazis to destroy it.

[Callafangers]

The rational explanation, for the so-called discrepancies, is that the Nazis did a very good job of exhumation, cremation and mixing the burnt remains and ashes into the ground, leaving no obvious signs of the original mass graves.

I understand that you need this to work, but it doesn't. The more they "did a good job" at mixing the voluminous remains with dirt to blend it in, the more volume these spread-out remains will occupy. The graves, as found through archaeological surveys, are both sparse with remains and low in volume -- meaning you need to find more of either or both to explain the quantities you are missing.

Everything else is just noise.

[Nessie]

The rational explanation, for the so-called discrepancies, is that the Nazis did a very good job of exhumation, cremation and mixing the burnt remains and ashes into the ground, leaving no obvious signs of the original mass graves.

I understand that you need this to work, but it doesn't. The more they "did a good job" at mixing the voluminous remains with dirt to blend it in, the more volume these spread-out remains will occupy. The graves, as found through archaeological surveys, are both sparse with remains and low in volume -- meaning you need to find more of either or both to explain the quantities you are missing.

Everything else is just noise.

The archaeology of what was left at the sites is complex. "Sparse" graves will be graves where the corpses were exhumed, but cremains were not dumped. "Low in volume" pits are likely where rubbish was buried.

You have just chosen to regard what has been found, to be not enough. It is part of your reliance on incredulity. I get criticised for this, but I say an area with a volume the equivalent to 56 Olympic sized swimming pools, as identified at TII by witnesses as being the location of the main mass graves, is enough space to fit c800,000 corpses. That is because those corpses were buried naked, they decomposed into a squashed mass and then, when exhumations and cremations started, the resulting ash and cremains mixed into the ground, there was a ton of space.

I am always amazed at how much plant matter, weeds and cuttings I can fit into the compost bin. It fits because it breaks down into one mass, with no space in or around it. I think that the corpses, squashed under pressure, the decomposition producing heat, did the same thing as the compost bin. Kola described the result as a waxy fat mass, again with no space in and around it, as all the gasses and liquids are gone.

The difference between us is that I can evidence hundreds of thousands being buried in mass graves and you cannot evidence any alternative, so you have to rely on your incredulity.

[Callafangers]

I say an area with a volume the equivalent to 56 Olympic sized swimming pools

Yes, you certainly do say this. You're the only one who does. Nobody else says this.