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José Niño: Well, when you have a topic like Holocaust revisionism, it's obviously going to get some form of backlash from the usual suspects. How do you generally respond to those who attempt to stifle this discussion whenever they label it a conspiracy theory or just quack stuff? How have you guys responded to that?
Germar Rudolf: Maybe I should address that since I've been confronted with that for the past 35 years. There is a cliché image, a strawman argument basically that you put up that is being pushed forward that we Holocaust skeptics say that, oh, this is a big Jewish conspiracy, they made up this lie in order to get political influence, to get reparations and whatever. And that they have been doing so behind the scenes and they faked all the evidence and they coordinated making up stories. But this is absolutely not what we say.
The research that has gone into our 54 volumes of archival and forensic research that goes deep into primary evidence of all kinds of forensic nature and so forth that tries to understand what happened during the war at war's end and so forth. So it's a complex history of wartime propaganda and exaggeration that happens in every war, of rumors and misunderstandings that happens in human conflicts when chaos reigns, and of lobbyists of various kinds and the Jewish is only one of them. I mean, we had world powers waging war against each other, every one of them had an agenda, was pushing it. And the biggest contribution actually came from Soviet propaganda sources. The coordinated Jewish efforts to contribute to that and to take advantage of it on a worldwide political stage does not materialize really until the 1961 Eichmann show trial. That's when you see a major push of Jewish powers. Before that, if we look at, for instance, how the gas chamber narrative, and that's the core of the Holocaust, the iconic core is the gas chamber, how that evolved during the war and at war's end, there's nothing about a Jewish conspiracy there, there's no coordination, there's no powerful group in the background pulling strings, that's absolutely not what happened.
I've written two books about that by now. The one is "The Holocaust Proven in Nuremberg?" that goes into the evidence that's presented there and shows how this story evolved and was pushed through that trial, which was very important for the formation of that story. And a second book that is called "Nazi Gas Chambers: The Roots of the Story", that really goes into what is the basis of this and how was this story formed and shaped. And the prime suspects are actually Stalinist, Eastern communist propagandists who were at the root of shaping the story, as we are told to this day, creating it out of a completely chaotic, anarchistic, hodgepodge of contradictory eyewitness testimonies, mainly by Jews, but absolutely not coordinated. There were a lot of Jews who were victims of Third Reich persecution. They had an axe to grind and they were telling all kinds of stories. And I would say it's all understandable that this happened, but there was no coordination, there was no streamlining, there was no system behind it at all, complete chaos. And to shape a story that looks somewhat consistent out of this chaos was done mainly in Poland under Stalinist supervision. And very understandable so why and how this was done. It can also be seen in a book, by the way. The book can be seen, if I might share that here. It can be accessed online completely free of charge. If I were to go to that website, let me see. Holocausthandbooks.com. We have a section here, books, Holocaust pocketbooks. We have "Nazi gas chambers". There's the book that I just mentioned about the roots of the story that explains that. And the other one is the second one in the series, the "Holocaust Proven at Nuremberg?", that tells us how doing this iconic post-war trial where Nazi leaders were put on trial, how this story was shaped without the defense having any ability to contest that narrative. So there is no conspiracy behind it other than the allied nations conspiring to continue waging a psychological war after Germany's defeat by doing those trials. It's not really a conspiracy and secrecy that was plainly open for everyone to see.
So if we're talking about a secret conspiracy, I can counter that and turn that thing around, because it's the mainstream that constantly said the Nazis conspired in secrecy to kill all the Jews. And they were hiding this plan in their documents, in their communications, in all of the evidence they created by using euphemisms, code language, secret language, using other words to say something completely different like evacuation, resettlement, deportation, when they really mean murder, mass murder, killing. So there's a huge body of evidence that evidently doesn't fit the narrative, but it's being pushed like a round peg into a square hole by assuming there was this secret conspiracy going on by Nazis all over the administration trying to hide it and trying to do something that they want to hide from the world. And this in itself sounds to me like a conspiracy theory that this could have happened. And the pinnacle of this claim is actually one of the world's leading historian, the late historian Raul Hilberg, who was during his lifetime considered one of the eminent, if not the most eminent Holocaust scholars of the mainstream. And he said something in reaction to the fact that there has never been found a plan, a budget, a blueprint, any kind of way of organizing administrative or functional body that would actually implement the final solution in terms of mass murder of the Jews. No budget, nothing there. So there is no evidence for anything of this like this having happened on the documentary level. How do we explain it? And he said, well, there was just something happening, a secret meeting of minds between all those bureaucrats, they developed it step by step without coordination, without giving anything away. And basically, he says it was a secret plot by mind reading. Now, how much more conspiratorial theory -like can you get than this? And this is the world's or used to be the world's top leading scholars of the mainstream when it comes to the Holocaust. So if you look at the facts, actually, it completely backfires, this kind of accusation. I turn around and say, no, you have a theory that stinks like a conspiracy theory.