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Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 2:54 pm
by Keen
Wetzelrad wrote: Fri May 29, 2026 12:40 am
Keen wrote: Thu May 28, 2026 12:20 am Yet you go on to spend your time responding to it and helping it with it's distractions and evasions.

???

Isn't it funny how there's always a "revisionist" who is willing to step in and play nesserto's game.
Sure, but sometimes playing along is a useful exercise. This forum exists partly as a public proof of the correctness of our ideas. For that to work, it is necessary to be the more reasonable party. Characters like Nessie help with that by constantly being wrong.
I totally agree. But the problem is revisionists complain about it constantly lying without ever holding its feet to the fire and demanding that it accept its burden of proof and defend all those lies.

And it's not just nesserto. It's all its fellow HC cult members as well. What good does putting nesserto in quarantine if all revisionists do is come over here and play the same games with it as they did in the other section?

Revisionists, for the most part, do not want to hold the lying POS to its burden of proof because they don't want to be held to theirs either.

For real change to occur, there needs to be a section here where real debate can take place. And for that to happen, people have to use their real identities and actually be held to their burden of proof. But we all saw how scared "revisionists" are of implementing such a thing, even though it could easily be a separate section.

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 2:56 pm
by Keen
Nesserto wrote: Fri May 29, 2026 6:39 am How accurate a claim is, is most reliably established by evidence.
If the physical evidence for an alleged crime that - HAS TO EXIST - for the crime to have

actually happened - DOES NOT EXIST - then the alleged crime obviously - DID NOT HAPPEN.

Ergo: The orthodox “pure extermination center” story is - A PROVEN, NONSENSICAL BIG-LIE.

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 3:00 pm
by Stubble
Keen wrote: Sat May 30, 2026 2:56 pm
Nesserto wrote: Fri May 29, 2026 6:39 am How accurate a claim is, is most reliably established by evidence.
If the physical evidence for an alleged crime that - HAS TO EXIST - for the crime to have

actually happened - DOES NOT EXIST - then the alleged crime obviously - DID NOT HAPPEN.

Ergo: The orthodox “pure extermination center” story is - A PROVEN, NONSENSICAL BIG-LIE.
It really is this simple.

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 3:03 pm
by Keen
Stubble wrote: Fri May 29, 2026 6:42 am
Nessie wrote: Fri May 29, 2026 6:22 am ...If I am wrong...
You piss ignorant retard, are you legitimately going to post that you have never been wrong, like, actually, factually incorrect and pivot to 'the mainstream is right' to cover your ass as you say you have never been demonstrably wrong?

You are, actually going to fucking do that?

You get ragdolled fucking constantly for being wrong. As an example, '56 Olympic Swimming Pools'....
If you're tired of it's lies, then you shouldn't play it's games. Hold it's feet to the fire on one issue / set of lies, like what is being done here:

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 3:05 pm
by Keen
Archie wrote: Fri May 29, 2026 12:23 pm Can you please stop lying about this?
LOL!

Yes, simply saying "please" will surely put an end to it's lying.

Why didn't I think of that before?

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 3:07 pm
by Keen
HansHill wrote: Fri May 29, 2026 1:23 pm Stop being deceitful.
You forgot to say the magic word "please."

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 3:08 pm
by Keen
Archie wrote: Sat May 30, 2026 4:38 am
Nessie wrote: Fri May 29, 2026 1:02 pm
Archie wrote: Fri May 29, 2026 12:23 pm

Can you please stop lying about this? They did NOT excavate 2 hectares to a depth of 7m. That is a lie which have repeated over and over. They excavated only a few pits.
I said they reported an area, that "AT ONE POINT", they excavated down to 7m. The "at one point" clearly indicates that the entire area was not excavated to 7m, it was only once, in one excavation, that they went that deep.
You can't extrapolate "one point" out to the entire area, dumbass. You claim to be Mr. Evidence and then you literally just make up data.

For the early reports, we have vague descriptions from not very reliable parties. No precise data. No confirmation of the claims via independent observers or photographic documentation. We simply have to take their word for it.

If there were "56 Olympic swimming pools" worth of human ash at Treblinka, it would still be there. Yet we've never seen it.

In the rare instances where we actually get to see a photo, it's not very impressive.
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And of course, one needs a pair of magic glasses to see a "whole human bone" in that photo.

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 3:11 pm
by Keen
Nessie wrote: Sat May 30, 2026 7:08 am You do not like the evidence you have been presented, so you ignore it and demand more.
OPENING / FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT: It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive, unsubstantiated allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 100 graves in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY SIX PEOPLE.

Note: Using the information presented on this website and applying legal standards used in U.S. courts, the above opening / fundamental statement of fact, which is written as, and can be defined as - a rebuttable presumption - can be - LEGALLY - ACCEPTED - AS - TRUE - in a U.S. court.


Foundational scientific question: Can archaeologists prove, with 100% certainty, if millions of pounds of bones and tens of millions of teeth actually exist in a precisely known location?

Foundational legal question: Is it reasonable to doubt that the remains of 2.145 million Jews are actually buried in the 100 specifically and precisely identified locations in question?

Foundational legal principles that easily expose this transparent archaeological hoax: BURDEN OF PRODUCTION & BURDEN OF PERSUASION & BURDEN OF PROOF.

http://thisisaboutscience.com/

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 3:13 pm
by Keen
Nessie wrote: Sat May 30, 2026 6:59 am Explaining a place which contained mass graves...
"Contained"?

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There it is again invoking his "magically disappearing jew / mass grave" theory.

Re: The case against gassing compared to shooting.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 3:21 pm
by Keen
Nessie wrote: Sat May 30, 2026 7:08 am Every single person who worked inside TII describes mass graves.
A - $100.00 reward - is being offered for each one of the 21 alleged “scientifically proven” mass graves / cremation pits in question that is proven - with the same standard of proof applied in U. S. civil courts - to actually exist and to currently contain the remains of - at least 2 people. (That is less than one tenth of one one thousandth of one percent of the alleged mass murder.)

Note: The 6 original fraudulently alleged “huge mass graves” of Treblinka II that were alleged by “authoritative eyewitnesses” and allegedly - “PROVEN” - to exist in the early show trials - MODEL - MAP - (but never proven to exist), are also included in the above reward offer. (A photo of one of these 6 fraudulently alleged “huge mass graves” can be seen - HERE.)


Here are 13 of the 15 fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves" of Treblinka II - as alleged by the charlatan Caroline Sturdy Colls (which she labels as "possible grave sites"):

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And here are 12 of the 15 fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves" of Treblinka II - as alleged by the charlatan Caroline Sturdy Colls (which she labels as "probable burial / cremation pits"):

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And here are the 15 fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves" of Treblinka II - as alleged by the charlatan Caroline Sturdy Colls (which she labels in various ways):

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And here is how Colls' numbers correspond to - THE HOLOCAUST ARCHAEOLOGY HOAX CHALLENGE
( http://thisisaboutscience.com/ ) numbering system:

CSC G50 = The H.A.H.C. "huge mass grave" #1/86

CSC G54 = The H.A.H.C. "huge mass grave" #2/87

CSC G53 = The H.A.H.C. "huge mass grave" #3/88

CSC G52 = The H.A.H.C. "huge mass grave" #4/89

CSC G51 = The H.A.H.C. "huge mass grave" #5/90

CSC F1 = The H.A.H.C. "huge mass grave" #6/91

CSC G44 = The H.A.H.C. "huge mass grave" #7/92

CSC G1 = The H.A.H.C. "huge mass grave" #8/93

CSC G4 = The H.A.H.C. "huge mass grave" #9/94

CSC G38 = The H.A.H.C. "huge mass grave" #10/95

CSC F16 = The H.A.H.C. "huge mass grave" #11/96

NOTE: This is a photo of fraudulently alleged "huge mass grave" F16:

https://i.postimg.cc/vT4MG5d5/Treblinka-F16.jpg

CSC F9 = The H.A.H.C. "huge mass grave" #12/97

CSC G29 = The H.A.H.C. "huge mass grave" #13/98

CSC G32 = The H.A.H.C. "huge mass grave" #14/99

CSC G36 = The H.A.H.C. "huge mass grave" #15/100

As well, there are the 6 additional fraudulently alleged "eyewitness" - "huge mass graves:"

The Wiernik model (Starting from upper left to right: *1A/*101, *2A/*102, *3A/*103, *4A/*104, *5A/*105, *6A/*106):

https://web.archive.org/web/20110210205 ... age001.jpg

And the Stangl trial map (Starting from upper left to right: *1B/*101, *2B/*102, *3B/*103, *4B/*104, *5B/*105, *6B/*106):

https://muzeumtreblinka.eu/wp-content/u ... apa-22.jpg

*NOTE: this is a photo of one of the 6 fraudulently alleged "eyewitness" - "huge mass graves:"

https://i.postimg.cc/65zjGzLY/Monumentmassgrave-TII.jpg